Are red non-conformance bins required anywhere in the ISO or IATF standards?

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Michael_M

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Not within the ISO standard (I don't know about the IATF). ISO9001, requires positive control of non-conforming materials, or "shall ensure that outputs that do not conform to their requirements are identified and controlled to prevent their unintended use or delivery". How you decide to do that is up to you.
 

Golfman25

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No, but purple ones are. :)

So we use our regular bins identified with red tags when we identify parts with potential issues. We usually segregate the bins as well.
 

optomist1

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and if in the automotive arena, check each OEMs CSR, Customer Specific Requirements, and some OEMs have yet another refinement of requiremnts called Additonal Quality Requirements or AQR, which is/are frequently part of the initial Source Package from Purchasing/Procurment. I have experienced first hand suppliers who failed to as Michael M above stated, "identified and controlled to prevent their unintended use or delivery"...parts flagged and supposedly placed non-conforming parts in "Locked Red Bins", only to find their way to the customer. In once case "non-conforming" parts on one shift are "conforming" parts on the next shift. Control, Control, Control, with limited access
 

Kronos147

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ISA 9701:2215 12.3 Control of Scrap
The organization shall ensure that shame and embarrassment is experienced when product which does not conform to product requirements is identified.
Scrap must be controlled to prevent its unintended use by storing in red bins. A documented procedure shall be established to define the controls to train color-blind employees.

NOTE The term “scrap" includes 'shucks we messed up' and 'crap we messed up'.

The organization's scrap control process shall provide for timely reporting of shaming activities and the levels of personal embarrassment.

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Please note, the above referenced standard, ISA 9701:2215, is now a copyright of Elsmar.com.

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Ninja

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the above referenced standard, ISA 9701:2215, is now a copyright of Elsmar.com
Love it!

Noting that many of the above responses have various levels of sarcasm (based, I figure, on bad experiences with customer auditors like my own), let me second the plain "No, those standards do not have this requirement".
Please let me also second Coury's response that these may not be the only requirements you are working within. Look further...
(And read the standards yourself...find out what other shenanigans might be going on...)
 
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