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AS 9100 Rev C AATT Exam Retake Guidance

BradM

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#71
Folks, let's please get this thread back on track. :agree1:

Please in the future, if you see something that does not look right or needs to be addressed, use the Report Button or contact a moderator about it. :)
 
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Marc

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#72

NOTE: A post in this thread has been Reported. The Moderators and I are watching this thread. As far as we can tell at this point no copyright or other rules have been broken in posts in this thread.

If at any time someone sees a post with copyrighted material the post should be Reported. Every post in a thread has a 'Report This' button
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As to Joy's "tips", at this time we do not see an issue with them since no copyrighted material has been posted here. As to aspects such as suggesting that someone printing screens in an online course being a copyright issue, that is beyond the scope of our control here as long as the material is not posted here.

The one aspect we have in question is Joy's "tip" about the clock stoppage for spurious reasons. We have not taken the test so we don't know how it works, but in my experience a well written program for an online course will detect such instances of clock stoppage when a test or other aspect of the course is being timed.

I personally reviewed Joy's "tips". I didn't see anything new, so to speak, although some of it (number 2 on her list) approaches what some would consider "cheating". We do consider this aspect in posts here. If we determine the content does provide and/or promote a method of cheating on an exam, we will remove the post. We do not allow "tips on how to cheat on an exam" - If we see such we will delete the post. If anyone here feels this is the case in a post, please us the 'Report This' button
and let the Moderators and I know about it. We will review it and we will take appropriate action.

I fully agree that tactics such as "2.Remember that the watch in the computer can be stopped. There is a button on top right hand corner. Ask the proctor before the test is started. Ask the guy,” In case I want to go to wash room, do I loose time?”.Also ask how many times the watch can be stopped. This is very important as you can stop the watch and go outside to think about the question. Time is individual’s. Use this privilege." may be a bit on the 'shady' side of things, but that aspect should be a given that people will use it to their advantage. That aspect should be addressed and controlled by the designers and coders of the online course. A company or institution which does a poor job designing their online courses should expect design flaw exploitations.

I think the point is any time someone sits for any type of exam, in person or online, they should follow the rules set forth by the company or institution proctoring the exam.

In my experience a person either knows the material or doesn't. In reading Joy's post, what I come away with is Pay Attention to Detail, Word by Word and Do Not Rely on your Memory when you can compare.. I don't see anything in the Joy's "tips" post that tells how, or advises people to, cheat/beat the software.
 
#73
Thanks my friends for the advice and support.Kiwisfly is also my friend and I should take his advice also.

Marc,You can delete my postings as it may not be in the business interest of a company:).Also those who have already passed may not like others to pass;).I tried to delete but edit button is not active with the post.

I know that I cannot make everyone happy in this world but Kiwisfly is also a friend.

Marc,you have changed my gender.I am a short fat man:tg:
 

dsanabria

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#74
Thanks my friends for the advice and support.Kiwisfly is also my friend and I should take his advice also.

Marc,You can delete my postings as it may not be in the business interest of a company:).Also those who have already passed may not like others to pass;).I tried to delete but edit button is not active with the post.

I know that I cannot make everyone happy in this world but Kiwisfly is also a friend.

Marc,you have changed my gender.I am a short fat man:tg:
Joy;

You have provided many the security blanket that they need it to step into an exam room and take on a giant (in this case ... an exam)

THANK YOU

Please do not retract your insight and think big... do not let one or two individuals destroy a dream, an idea, or a concept - otherwise ... they win...
 

Timothy1

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#76
Though I initiated this thread, whatever reason I lost the connection (is not getting the posts). By replying to one of the posts, I am trying to reconnect.

I have successfully completed the course few months back. Thanks for the inputs from many especially dsnabaria. His posts were practical.

I heard that Plexus has tried retake exams sitting in our home or office (remotely proctored) Anybody heard of that/ tried that? Just curious know how it works
 

dsanabria

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#77
Though I initiated this thread, whatever reason I lost the connection (is not getting the posts). By replying to one of the posts, I am trying to reconnect.

I have successfully completed the course few months back. Thanks for the inputs from many especially dsnabaria. His posts were practical.

I heard that Plexus has tried retake exams sitting in our home or office (remotely proctored) Anybody heard of that/ tried that? Just curious know how it works
Please pass on the positive info to others..

:applause::applause::applause:
 
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idealdebb

#78
WOW, Plexus has really caused a big issue in many ways over this AS9100C test. I have already invested thousands into this Rev C.
The instructors that I had in my class room where horrible, I had many class mates that complained and voiced their opinions, and Plexus couldn’t care less. As for me, it was confusing trying to follow the instructors, when they couldn’t answer the questions that the class was asking.
It’s amazing to me on the frustration I have encountered of being told that I've failed but not given an explanation on my weak points of the test. The pass/fail is one thing but not given reason of the results is “totally ridiculous and insulting”. Testing is difficult for me, always has been.
I’m an AA, and yet I have been held to the requirements of an AEA, even thou I don’t own the report and never will. I also don’t understand how they feel that you need an 80 or better to pass. I guess I was close on both of my retakes to hit 80 but I just wasn’t quite there. At least that was the impression I got when I called plexus rep on it.
Plexus is draining our pockets and they don’t care how deep they go. I guess times are bad, when an organization can financially steal from us, give us no reason, and nothing is done about it.
 
#79
IAQG needs to check the comptence of Plexus trainers.So was my experience.Though it is not a requirement that the trainer needs to be an aerospace auditor,is it not funny that the training for the stringent auditor course is being conducted by those who does not have any experience of conducting audit?So when you ask them to clarify they don't answer and just smile to get some reply from the participants.

Debb,there are other training providers now.

There was some tutorial also.
 
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idealdebb

#80

I wonder if plexus is correcting the test correctly. I think that a third party organization should be correcting the test that plexus has failed. I am on my third retake, and I have not passed at this time. I have friends that have retaking the course with SAE, and when they have left the class, they receive conformation that they have passed the test. I also have a friend that waited 6 weeks for his test results and when he contacted plexus about his test, plexus couldn’t find his test, and then plexus came back to him and said he failed. He has been a AS auditor for the past 20 years, he is now taken the class with SAE. Times are hard enough, and it doesn’t help when an organization is only thinking about the bottom line, “money”. Thank you, you have helped me in this situation, but it’s not over for me yet.
 
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