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AS9100 - 7.4.2d Purchasing - Specification revision for raw material needed?

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littleRoot

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Hello,

I have an upcoming AS9100 and I seen that POs going out to raw material vendors did not state the specification revision, only the spec. Then the Raw Material Test Report we receive back from vendor will typically state the current revision to the spec we called out on our PO.

After seeing this, I checked to see if we had the current spec revision and we did not. When I inquired, I received comments like 'we thought spec and revision status only apply to processes so we don't state revs on raw material POs and we cant confirm if vendors have current spec'.

My question is does 7.4.2d apply to raw material also? Currently we only control spec revisions for outside processes like anodizing, plating, etc and check for the current rev when the certs come back.

If someone could please assist me, I'd appreciate it!
 
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Just like anything we do in Quality the answer is, it depends. I assume the raw material specs you refer to are industry wide type specs. Since this a AS audit you can assess the risk of not having the spec revision called out in your POs. Take into account the type of changes that have occur in the specs in the past and how these affected your raw materials and how it affected your product plus your ability to meet customer requirements.
 

somashekar

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Then the Raw Material Test Report we receive back from vendor will typically state the current revision to the spec we called out on our PO.
Is that the current revision of the spec sheet you see or the current revision of the material spec ?
Typically a raw material spec (Ex: ABS 300 natural from ABS company) will remain unchanged, while the spec sheet (TDS) of this material can be a current revision released by the company, to which the test report aligns.
This does not mean that the ABS 300 natural has changed properties. You need to review the TDS, both current and the obsolete to make sure your material is what you wanted.
A lot of clarity will come when you also look into ordering information / code, which will remain unchanged for a material of a specific grade, and specific packaging, making it unique to what you want to order.
 
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