AS9100 Clause 7.1.1 Project Management - Process vs Project.

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AlexanderS

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Hello Experts,
I am working on AS9100 implementation and I would appreciate your comments.


We are small (40 people) contract manufacturer of Printed Circuit Boards, PCBs. No design/development work, build to print operation. With every order the Process is the same, we receive electronic files from Customer, our ERP creates the schedule for the process, we build and ship the product. No post production Service. We are not going to create MS Project for each build that we do, it does not make sense.

Question:

Can I exclude 7.1.1 from my QMS?

Or

Can I say that my ERP system allows to ?plan and manage product realization in structured and controlled manner? and allows to ?meet requirements at acceptable risk, within resource and schedule constraints?? My ERP does everything above except resource calculation..


P.S. When I was working for Electronic Manufacturing Service Company with New Product Introduction and Design & Development, Project Management made so much sense. Without Project Controls it was almost impossible to complete all the Product Realization stages on time.


Thank you,

Alexander.
 
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Sidney Vianna

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Re: AS9100. 7.1.1 Project management. Process vs Project.

If you are not familiar with yet, I would suggest that you peruse a couple of IAQG documents that might be of assistance to you:

IAQG 9100:2009 Clarifications and
9100 Auditor Guidance Material

Something that you need to keep in mind is: experts (even the self-proclaimed ones) can opine and answer your questions, but, if you are seeking certification to AS9100, you should ask your certification body to provide you with their take on the issue, and keep a record of their response, in case the assigned auditor does not agree with whomever gave you an answer on behalf of the CB.

If you selected a CB that works WITH and not AGAINST you, they should be able to assist you, without crossing the consultancy line.

Good luck.
 

John Broomfield

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Alexander,

From what you say about your management system, clause 7.1.1 is not appropriate. It delivers all the benefits of project management.

No doubt you will document your justification for the exclusion (in the vicinity of the scope statement perhaps).

Study the guidance documents posted by Sidney, you can then be confident that your auditor will agree with you.

I personally would not ask the auditor without having done my homework so I'm confident of conformity.

An uncertain auditee can create uncertainty in the auditor.

John
 
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AlexanderS

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Thank you Sidney, thank you John,
That is very helpful. I will ask the Registrar.

I thought of another idea last night :)

The requirement is

7.1.1 Project Management
As appropriate to the organization and the product, the organization shall plan and manage product realization in
a structured and controlled manner to meet requirements at acceptable risk, within resource and schedule
constraints.

And what is happening in our company is this:

"Our ERP system allows to plan and manage product realization in structured and controlled manner. Potential risks, resources and schedule constraints are evaluated and managed at Job Planning phase (See procedure such and such) by Operation Manager or his/her substitute on a daily bases"

So, I can put that wording into QMS documents and close this clause. I think that makes sense. I will ask the registrar.
 
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