AS9100 Internal Audit (Quality System) Program

[Trishmag]

Any help on sample template for Quality system internal audit: AS9100 requirements ask to perform periodic assessment of QMS in a way that each clause can be covered annually or how QMS is set up. Then why auditor looks for process audit? Any example to show how to perform QMS audit that includes processes as well as clauses.

 

[Golfman25]

The easiest way for you to manage this is to setup a matrix which identifies the clause and where/what processes address that clause. You can use as a reference document when you audit to ensure you’re hitting everything. So say you audit the management process, there are a dozen or so clauses applicable. Check that you hit each clause during you process audit. Some clauses may hit two or more process. This helps keep it straight.

 

[Big Jim]

It is expected for certification bodies to audit your quality management system as you have set it up and not from using the old fashioned checklist that is based on the elements of the standard, walking through the standard one element at a time from 4.1 to 10.3. Those auditors need to audit using AS9101 and all the forms it includes. AS9101 requires them to base the audit on your processes as described in your Interaction of Processes. (IOP).

Although you are not required to follow their example for internal audits, it is MUCH preferred. There is nothing to keep you from using an element based checklist, but it is frowned on. Some claim you can't but that is incorrect.

Personally, I strongly recommend performing a process based internal audit. It provides a better view of your system.

Take a look at your IOP and identify what your core processes are and tell us what they are and we can give you some more pointed advice.

 

[Trishmag]

It is expected for certification bodies to audit your quality management system as you have set it up and not from using the old fashioned checklist that is based on the elements of the standard, walking through the standard one element at a time from 4.1 to 10.3. Those auditors need to audit using AS9101 and all the forms it includes. AS9101 requires them to base the audit on your processes as described in your Interaction of Processes. (IOP).

Although you are not required to follow their example for internal audits, it is MUCH preferred. There is nothing to keep you from using an element based checklist, but it is frowned on. Some claim you can't but that is incorrect.

Personally, I strongly recommend performing a process based internal audit. It provides a better view of your system.

Take a look at your IOP and identify what your core processes are and tell us what they are and we can give you some more pointed advice.

Yes, I see that AS9101 is the standard the CB auditor follows but standard doesn't enforce it. Our IOP has core processes are Program management, Supply chain management, Design/Development and Product realization and supporting are QMS, configuration management, Facilities management, M&TE, Continuous improvement, Management review, Organization, Export etc. So, if you have any example on how it comes together that can cover processes as well as clauses. that would be helpful to tailor using the above. Is it necessary to include all processes or just the core ones.

 

[Big Jim]

Because auditors need to fill out a PEAR (process effectiveness assessment report) for all of your declared core processes he probably won't be happy with that long list. I suggest you consolidate some of them so you end up with about 4 to 6.

Something like: Management, Sales/Program Management, Design, Purchasing/Supply Chain Management, Production Planning, Manufacturing (not product realization as that include manufacturing, design, sales, production planning and so on).

Management - all sections except 8.
Sales 8.1, 8,2
Design 8.3
Purchasing 8.4
Production Planning 8.1
Manufacturing 8.1, 8.5, 8.6, 8.7

Sorry, gotta run. I have a plane to catch.