That is not an accident, since The Cove frowns on IP piracy and exchange of documents protected by copyright.
Some course providers will include a copy of the standard if you take a course with them.
Hi Sidney,
You are correct, and in my case rather than buy one I'll try one of the local university libraries...I'm in no way looking to circumvent protocol....although one would think that previous out-dated revisions might be readily available to those just coming on board...for educational purposes.
Regarding courses, I may pursue that route for Rev C.
Thank you again.
Marty
You are correct, and in my case rather than buy one I'll try one of the local university libraries...I'm in no way looking to circumvent protocol....although one would think that previous out-dated revisions might be readily available to those just coming on board...for educational purposes.
Regarding courses, I may pursue that route for Rev C.
Thank you again.
Marty
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Gus01
I'am in the process to transition one company from AS9100B to rev.C and they have a big amount of procedures with old dates.
question- Do the procedures need to be revised and date changed even when the procedure still in place? even if was generated on year 2000?
Mi interpretation of section 4.2.3 is to you have to prove the process of revise the document, and if nothing changes to have a log that shows the revision of document and the justification of staying with the original rev.
question- Do the procedures need to be revised and date changed even when the procedure still in place? even if was generated on year 2000?
Mi interpretation of section 4.2.3 is to you have to prove the process of revise the document, and if nothing changes to have a log that shows the revision of document and the justification of staying with the original rev.
rickpaul01
Involved in HankyPanky
Well Gus01,
Is your question “Can I have procedures with approval dates as old as 2000?” The answer of course would be yes. But I would caution you, if you have a lot of these, it might lead someone to question whether or not your systems are meeting the requirement for continual improvement.
Also, remember that 4.2.3 requires you to have a formal document control procedure. This document control procedure needs to address “review and update as necessary and re-approval”. You control what this procedure says.
If my comments don’t help you, please re-phrase your question.
Is your question “Can I have procedures with approval dates as old as 2000?” The answer of course would be yes. But I would caution you, if you have a lot of these, it might lead someone to question whether or not your systems are meeting the requirement for continual improvement.
Also, remember that 4.2.3 requires you to have a formal document control procedure. This document control procedure needs to address “review and update as necessary and re-approval”. You control what this procedure says.
If my comments don’t help you, please re-phrase your question.
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Gus01
Thanks for the information, I want to reduce the amount of documentation since are about 400 documents.
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Rick Melton
What section of ISO9000:2000/AS9100 covers aviation?
rickpaul01
Involved in HankyPanky
Hi Rick, welcome to The Cove.
The ISO 9000 family of documents, more specifically ISO 9001:2008, specifies quality management system requirements for any type of organization to help consistently meet customer and legal requirements, and to achieve customer satisfaction and continual improvement.
AS9100 contains all of the ISO 9001 requirements, but has additional requirements specifically for organizations that design, develop and/or manufacture/produce aviation, space and defense products.
In addition to AS9100, there is also AS9110 and AS9120. AS9110 is written for organizations that provide maintenance, repair and overhaul services for aviation products. AS9120 is for organizations that buy parts, materials and assemblies for resale to the aviation, space and defense industries (distributors).
So, the short answer to your question is that ALL of the standards can apply to aviation, not just sections of them. Please let me know if this answer raises more questions...
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sol49720
Hello Rick,
ISO 9001:2008 covers the Quality Management System requirements, In AS9100C revision, all the ISO9001:2008 requirements are there, additionally, the added requirements of AS9100C are identified with BOLD lettering. The new AS9100C has additional quality sections not contained in ISO9001:2008 such as 7.1.1, 7.1.2, 7.1.3 and 7.1.4. There are others also. Some of the requirements are hinted at in ISO9001:2008, but in AS9100C, they are specifically called out and have to be addressed. The area that I found required the most preperation and training to be addressed was 7.1.3 Configuration Management. Since it was moved from 4.3 in AS9100B to 7.1.3 in AS9100C and the requirements really spelled out, it required alot of training be supplied to engineering, purchasing, APQP etc. to ensure everything was covered. I guess I was lucky to cover it the most, had no issues there with my upgrade audit. All in all, the upgrade audit to AS9100C went very well, only four minors for a five day audit and no majors. Hope all goes well for you
You can also access the AS family of standards via -DEAD LINK REMOVED- They are listed in order of latest revision.
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