AS9100 Training - Where do I start?

#1
So this is kind of a weird one (I think, maybe I'm wrong). I started in this company recently (3 months ago) and do not have any prior training in ISO9001 or AS9100, my company really likes me and feels that I will be able to help them in the transition from ISO to AS. They basically want me to read up on their current ISO9001 Manual to get familiar with it and slowly start seeing what I can do to transition over to AS9100. (I think eventually the person who wrote the ISO will help me and eventually I will get training...but right now I have nothing). Is there anything I should be doing to make this easier for me? I am basically lost here, I have been reading up on a lot of threads on here which has helped me understand a decent amount but this seems almost impossible. Where do I start? Just read over ISO9001 and all of AS9100 to fully understand them? Is there much I can do without actual training? Thank you for any help. (Just to clarify, I am not doing the transition alone exactly, they basically want a fresh/open mind to bring to the table. I don't want to disappoint)
 
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I did highlight the differences between ISO9001 and AS9100 (Which is already done in AS9100 but I broke it up into one "small" document with things that are going to be needed.) And found 1 or 2 things that were already done but not required in ISO9001 so I guess that's a step.
 

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I'll take a stab at this..... if I understand correctly your company wants you, a rookie at QMS implementation, to help them transition. That's gonna be a tough row to hoe, but if you can, get some formal training. I don't mean hire consultants, but get training for you and maybe 1-2 other members of your team if you can.

Second, try to make your Management realize that this is not something to be done by one person, it requires an implementation team.

The team will need to create a gap analysis and assign people to do what is necessary to close the gaps.

That will get you started....

And the people on this forum can help with specific questions -- we literally have some of the best in the business answering questions here, including active registrar auditors.
 
#4
I'll take a stab at this..... if I understand correctly your company wants you, a rookie at QMS implementation, to help them transition. That's gonna be a tough row to hoe, but if you can, get some formal training. I don't mean hire consultants, but get training for you and maybe 1-2 other members of your team if you can.

Second, try to make your Management realize that this is not something to be done by one person, it requires an implementation team.

The team will need to create a gap analysis and assign people to do what is necessary to close the gaps.

That will get you started....

And the people on this forum can help with specific questions -- we literally have some of the best in the business answering questions here, including active registrar auditors.
Yea that is basically exactly what is happening. I think sitting down and really discussing everything is the best bet. I am starting to understand the differences between ISO9001 and AS9100 to be able to at least get things started. Thanks for your help, sorry about the weird post, I was getting pretty stressed thinking maybe it is kind of easy and I'm just not getting a grasp of it.
 

mattador78

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#5
So this is kind of a weird one (I think, maybe I'm wrong). I started in this company recently (3 months ago) and do not have any prior training in ISO9001 or AS9100, my company really likes me and feels that I will be able to help them in the transition from ISO to AS. They basically want me to read up on their current ISO9001 Manual to get familiar with it and slowly start seeing what I can do to transition over to AS9100. (I think eventually the person who wrote the ISO will help me and eventually I will get training...but right now I have nothing). Is there anything I should be doing to make this easier for me? I am basically lost here, I have been reading up on a lot of threads on here which has helped me understand a decent amount but this seems almost impossible. Where do I start? Just read over ISO9001 and all of AS9100 to fully understand them? Is there much I can do without actual training? Thank you for any help. (Just to clarify, I am not doing the transition alone exactly, they basically want a fresh/open mind to bring to the table. I don't want to disappoint)
I had to do exactly the same as you and this place is a great place for reading and asking for advice. I don't feel that I have been given any bad advice on here, I may have not agreed with all of it or understood it to begin with but none of it has been bad. We did have an outside consultant helping us and a few of his conversations may have been calling me as thick as pig faeces but again its all a learning curve. We passed our AS audit last November 12 months after I started with the transition with no NC. Self auditing is the best advise I can offer and make sure you write anything you want changing with the person responsible for it, it reduces conflict and educates you both at the same time. Luckily for me i have worked at this place for 23 years and the owners and senior management i have worked alongside when there was less than 10 of us on site here so conflict with Senior management was always minimal or involved us telling each other to F off the calming down resolving the issue and going watch the football (pre covid) at the weekend with a few beers before and after (maybe during as well). I digress this place has been a great help in educating me and it continues to do so. So milk it for all you can on here
 
#6
I had to do exactly the same as you and this place is a great place for reading and asking for advice. I don't feel that I have been given any bad advice on here, I may have not agreed with all of it or understood it to begin with but none of it has been bad. We did have an outside consultant helping us and a few of his conversations may have been calling me as thick as pig faeces but again its all a learning curve. We passed our AS audit last November 12 months after I started with the transition with no NC. Self auditing is the best advise I can offer and make sure you write anything you want changing with the person responsible for it, it reduces conflict and educates you both at the same time. Luckily for me i have worked at this place for 23 years and the owners and senior management i have worked alongside when there was less than 10 of us on site here so conflict with Senior management was always minimal or involved us telling each other to F off the calming down resolving the issue and going watch the football (pre covid) at the weekend with a few beers before and after (maybe during as well). I digress this place has been a great help in educating me and it continues to do so. So milk it for all you can on here
I'm glad to see (or maybe not glad to see haha) someone that was in the same boat as me. So far I have been reading a lot of posts on here and they have helped me really understand a lot of things. Everyone seems extremely helpful and I am sure I will be posting more in the future.
 

John Predmore

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#7
If you purchase a copy of AS9100, all wording printed in bold text is the AS9100 content which was added to ISO9001, so that is one way to see what is different. I invite you to register at the industry site International Aerospace Quality Group , where you find a wealth of information. Be sure to check the SCMH for webinars and presentation slides.

You are also asking how to get started when you do not have prior training in ISO9001. Some people learn by reading a book on the subject, some people would rather watch videos, some people would rather take classroom instruction, some would benefit from working with a consultant. I have used all of these methods. The people at the Cove will do our best to help, but you best know your situation and your needs. It is most efficient to ask detailed direct questions. Welcome.
 

mattador78

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#8
I'm glad to see (or maybe not glad to see haha) someone that was in the same boat as me. So far I have been reading a lot of posts on here and they have helped me really understand a lot of things. Everyone seems extremely helpful and I am sure I will be posting more in the future.
I did take an internal auditing course to help me along the way just for ISO9001 it was extremely helpful and helped me realise I knew a lot more than I thought. Reading the standards and manuals over and over to educate myself made me very word blind to begin with if that makes sense.
 
#9
If you purchase a copy of AS9100, all wording printed in bold text is the AS9100 content which was added to ISO9001, so that is one way to see what is different. I invite you to register at the industry site International Aerospace Quality Group , where you find a wealth of information. Be sure to check the SCMH for webinars and presentation slides.

You are also asking how to get started when you do not have prior training in ISO9001. Some people learn by reading a book on the subject, some people would rather watch videos, some people would rather take classroom instruction, some would benefit from working with a consultant. I have used all of these methods. The people at the Cove will do our best to help, but you best know your situation and your needs. It is most efficient to ask detailed direct questions. Welcome.
We did purchase the AS9100 recently so I am seeing what has been added. I think watching videos would be my best bet until I am able to actually get formal training. I believe they are going to want me to get it (actual training) eventually but wanted me to try to get familiar with it as much as I can first.
 
#10
I did take an internal auditing course to help me along the way just for ISO9001 it was extremely helpful and helped me realise I knew a lot more than I thought. Reading the standards and manuals over and over to educate myself made me very word blind to begin with if that makes sense.
I think I know what you mean and it is kind of what I am scared of. For me I need a more...in depth explanation. Reading a manual over and over is nice but I am a big "why" person to understand things fully. I am going to ask the boss for training and such to help this go a lot easier.
 
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