AS9102 Interpretation on Form 2 field 6 - Specification

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spike1127

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On Form 2 field 6- Specification. Should the specification be listed as shown on the drawing or as shown on the material or process cert? The drawing doesn't list the revision (for obvious reasons) and the cert does. So which is supposed to be reported in this field?

On Form 3 field 10- I'm struggling with how to interpret the "(including NC programming)" part of the sentence. Is this meant to be the NC program used to machine the part or the CMM program used to check the part?

Thanks.
 
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Michael_M

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Re: AS9102 Interpretation

On Form 2 field 6- Specification. Should the specification be listed as shown on the drawing or as shown on the material or process cert? The drawing doesn't list the revision (for obvious reasons) and the cert does. So which is supposed to be reported in this field?

On Form 3 field 10- I'm struggling with how to interpret the "(including NC programming)" part of the sentence. Is this meant to be the NC program used to machine the part or the CMM program used to check the part?

Thanks.
My answer is based on the majority of my customers (one customer has very weird interpretations):

Form 2, field 6 is based on the actual specification the process was performed to: For example the print says passivate per AMS-QQ-P-35 but you passivate to AMS2700 then I list AMS2700 I list the passivate per blue print requirements in the comments section of form 3 with the associated bubble number when I add the print notes.

Form 3, Field 10 I list the specific tool used (for example, 'OD micrometer'), The NC programming (by my interpretation) is if you use the machine with a probe head, I have never added this and so far none of my customers have asked me for it, they ask for other 'strange' things.

Hope this helps.
 

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On Form 2 field 6- Specification. Should the specification be listed as shown on the drawing or as shown on the material or process cert? The drawing doesn't list the revision (for obvious reasons) and the cert does. So which is supposed to be reported in this field?
Form 2 is (as I understand it) the manufacturer's interpretation of the drawing. We would go and look at our Bill of Resources and Work Order for this information.

In terms of a revision, be aware that SAE is changing a lot of material and process specs to insist that the revision be used on "procurement documents." I would argue that a FAIR is not a procurement document, so it needs no specific revision information per se. As the FAIR process is an OFI and an opportunity to review that processes were conducted as planned, I would include revision on the report just to be complete.

However, I don't think there is any requirement to specify revision of (material or process) specifications.

Eric
 
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