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Susan atSLAMResource

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I am working on including AS9120 into our quality system. We have had ISO9001 since 2014 and have had very few issues raised by our registrar auditor and the system is working smoothly. I am looking for resources to help me with figuring out the implementation of the details of certain sections of AS9120 (which I have read thoroughly) (converting the standard into 'what does it actually look like day to day'). As I am not very familiar with the aviation field, the details and specifics are all new to me.

I don't need a consultant, that is basically what I am (although I am now an employee). I have reached out to our registrar (haven't been assigned an AS9120 auditor yet) - but the answers to my specific questions are slow to come back and I need to more forward on this.
I have looked online for training sessions (but they are either extremely expensive or too broad for what I need).
I have looked at IAQG.org which has been extremely helpful - but it is generally for AS9100, not AS9120.

I have searched the internet and found the AS9120 store which offers QMS packages. Has anyone ever used them and are they useful or worth the money ? (I apologize if this is not something that we are allowed to ask - please disregard / delete this question if that is the case)
Are there any other resources (books, websites...) that could be of use.

Thank you very much for all of your support and help !
I am very glad that Elsmar is here as it is a great resource !
Susan Brown
 
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Susan atSLAMResource

Starting to get Involved
#3
Sidney,
Thank you very much for reminding me about this section. It isn't exactly what I am looking for but is helpful for clarifications on some items.
Every little bit helps !
Thank you very much !
Susan
 

Big Jim

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#4
As a consultant that has helped many companies obtain ISO 9001, AS9100, and AS9120 certification I can say that the canned packages that many start out with are not of much help. When I'm asked to come in and help someone that started out with such kits, I have found it much more effective to start over rather than try to untangle what they tried to do on their own.

Besides the resource that Sidney pointed out, there are resources here. AS9120 is not quite as popular as AS9100, but there is still a lot of help here. Besides searching for answers, you can always ask questions about a specific topic and get comments from others that have already been through it.

I should ask, are you sure that AS9120 is the right standard for you? AS9120 is for distributorships. If you perform, or have performed for you, any value added work that is not under your customer's direction, AS9120 is not the correct standard. For example if you are a metal distributor and you on your own speclation send out metal to be forged or heat treated, you cannot get registered to AS9120. AS9100 would be better. If in this example the customer wanted you to have it forged or heat treated you could be AS9120 certified.
 

Susan atSLAMResource

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#5
Big Jim,

Thank you very much for the information (you confirmed what I believe about the prefab kits - was asking just in case this was the solution that everyone was using for some reason...).

I will post specific questions about sections of AS9120 that I am not sure how to handle or haven't quite deciphered.

Re your question regarding is this the correct standard - we are only going to be buying, stocking, splitting lots and selling small stainless steel / aluminum fittings.... so I am pretty sure AS9120 is the right way to go....
(Our company does do design and manufacturing - but NOT for Aeronautics, more for commercial applications and CSA B51 / ASME B31.1 ASME B31.3 - hose assemblies and fittings - but we will not be venturing into the manufacturing / design portion of Aeronautics - at least for the near / medium future, 10 years).

Thank you again for sharing your knowledge !
Susan Brown
 
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