ASME NQA-1 and Interface Control

SteelMaiden

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I am not sure, I call the welder things gauges myself;)

I just don't get too hung up in who calls what a tool. Maybe that is wrong, but I just figure if it measures or monitors something that we are certifying the characteristic as being some certain value, then we need to calibrate it. If it measures or monitors some process value that we say needs to be met prior to releasing the product from one step to the next, it needs to be calibrated. Maybe a tool would be like a jig? Making sure that it is what you think it is?

Boy, I guess I sound like a real expert, don't I?:lmao:
 
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Michael T

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:thanx: Thanks again SM...

You're certainly more of an expert on this stuff than anyone else I've run into. ;)

Oh look... It's Miller time... :tg:

Have a great weekend!!

Michael
 

SteelMaiden

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One thing that I can tell you, and this came from an auditor of NQA-1 systems: "If you have your ISO 9001 certification, you are 98% of the way there. You just need to find the 2% that you are missing and fill that hole." I fully believe that and I also believe that the 2% that is required that is above and beyond what most of us have in our current system is a little bit of training records, a little bit in SQA, and a little bit in internal auditing (who can audit what)
 
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Michael T

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One thing that I can tell you, and this came from an auditor of NQA-1 systems: "If you have your ISO 9001 certification, you are 98% of the way there. You just need to find the 2% that you are missing and fill that hole." I fully believe that and I also believe that the 2% that is required that is above and beyond what most of us have in our current system is a little bit of training records, a little bit in SQA, and a little bit in internal auditing (who can audit what)

Yep... I'm finding that out. Part IV, Subpart 4.3 gives a good gap analysis between NQA-1 and ISO 9001, although NQA-1 goes a bit overboard with respect to what needs to be expanded to "meet this NQA Requirement" :rolleyes:

As we use off the shelf engineering software for design (SolidWorks), I don't know how much SQA we can do.

The internal auditing thing is fun... qualification for a Lead Auditor require at least one Nuclear audit. I guess I lose my status as a Lead Auditor... won't my boss be happy. :lmao:

Thanks again for all your help!!!

Happy Monday!

Michael
 
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Norm Moreau

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Hope I'm to late to this thread. I came across it while googling for other material. What you have to remember about NQA-1 is that it was developed during the original design and construction days circra later 60's early 70's and what was meant and is still meant by "interface control" is how different organizations that are working on the design will communicate. So how does electrical know what mechanical is doing? How are changes to piping flowrates communcated to the instrumentation and control group that has to capture that in the process controller.

For small organizations this is an easy task. There are only so many people in the organization that involved in the design - really not hard to define and demonstrate. The larger the organization gets the tougher.

Unrelated to the interface control question I thought the comment about NQA-1 requiring about 2% more effort than ISO, not sure I agree. ISO is a customer centric standard. NQA is a safety centric standard. Now if one has to comply with some other requirement such as PED, UL, ASME Sections I or II, then I believe that the number might be high, not even sure it gets to 90.

Well there's my nickels worth. Good luck!
 

SteelMaiden

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hey Norm, you're never too late to join the discussion. I think tho that I've probably not done a good job saying what I meant....I certainly didn't mean that you have only to put in 2% more effort, only that 98% of the requirements are covered, to some degree in the ISO requirements. You may have to do some fine tuning, but if you already have a training program, you don't have to totally redo your process to meet NQA-1. etc.

BTW, we are certainly happy to see you join in on these nuclear discussions, as you can tell many of us have been floundering around for quite some time with no real knowledge. Hope you can continue to help us on our way!
 
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Norm Moreau

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They way I like to say it is that ISO 9001 provides a "framework" for implementing an NQA-1 program. This is true regardless of the requirements - FDA, aerospace, telecommunications, etc.

I can tell from the questions and comments here and from my own expereicne that a lot of floundering is occuring which translates into wasting money and other valuable resources. I hope I can help with that. So keep the questions and comments coming!
 

SteelMaiden

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Well I will be the first to admit that I am floundering. Reading these standards, you nearly need to have a law degree. They are so darn hard to understand, and it seems like you go on for paragraphs trying to figure out what is being asked for. Thank you for your offer to help us out.
 

Cari Spears

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Alas, it has been a while since I was here last.
It's great to see you back!

So... what brings me here, you ask?? Well... as part of our efforts to expand our markets, we are entertaining the possibility of obtaining our N-Stamp for our hose assemblies.
We are also working on obtaining N-Stamp certification. Our nuclear inspector is here today as a matter of fact working with us on our manual. Have you contracted someone yet? We're using Hartford Steam Boiler.
 

SteelMaiden

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OK, here is something I find confusing. I see conversations here about N stamping and getting NQA-1 certification. They are not the same thing, are they? Don't you get certified to NCA-3800 for N stamping? OH, my aching head! the more I look at this stuff the less I know.

Please, someone, please can we get some Cove lessons on how to gain NCA-3800 certification? I just wanna go and hide till it's time to retire.
 
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