Definition Audit - First, Second and Third Party - Definitions

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J
#2
Simply Put,
First party audits are audits you perform on yourself (internal audits)
Second party audits are when a customer audits you.
Third party audits are when an independent organization audits you.

Or

First party == I audit Me for Me

Second Party == I audit You for Me

Third Party == I audit you for Them

James
 
J
#5
Douglas E. Purdy said:
James,

What Party Audit is:

I Audit You for You?

Doug

First party.
The audit is done by the company to monitor itself and no external certification is given or expected.

James
 
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#7
Douglas E. Purdy said:
James,

What Party Audit is:

I Audit You for You?

Doug
If you are not a member of the same organization then most likely you will be a 3rd party conducting a 1st party audit.

However if you are asked to conduct an audit to be used other than as an internal audit, like a registration audit, then you are 3rd party conducting a 3rd party audit.

"Who's on 1st?" "No, Who's on 2nd." Gets confusing fast doesn't it?
 
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