J
Re: What does the standard say?
Let's assume you are correct and the auditor won't pin you down that you haven't "determined" or demonstrated "management" of the work environment, and will only have cause to cite you if you produce nonconforming product.......
Do you really have zero nonconforming product?
Are you saying that you can produce 100% good product? If not, how will you demonstrate that it isn't the fault of the work environment?
Seriously, what is so difficult about meeting the requirements of this clause? Look around and you will see the components of it all around you. This isn't something that should be difficult.
However, if I was an auditor and found seamstresses working on delicate fabric or doing intricate beadwork in a hot warehouse without AC and no potty breaks allowed except for lunchtime and lunchtime was limited to 15 minutes, I would cite a nonconformance to this clause no matter how many good items they produced. Because a worker is not working to best ability under these circumstances and fabric will be ruined and wasted and employees will be sick and absent resulting in less production. The business suffers when employees suffer and that is the point.
db said:
Unless the auditor can show where my work environment has resulted in my inability to achieve conformity to product requirements, there can be NO nonconformance cited.
Unless the auditor can show where my work environment has resulted in my inability to achieve conformity to product requirements, there can be NO nonconformance cited.
Do you really have zero nonconforming product?
Seriously, what is so difficult about meeting the requirements of this clause? Look around and you will see the components of it all around you. This isn't something that should be difficult.
However, if I was an auditor and found seamstresses working on delicate fabric or doing intricate beadwork in a hot warehouse without AC and no potty breaks allowed except for lunchtime and lunchtime was limited to 15 minutes, I would cite a nonconformance to this clause no matter how many good items they produced. Because a worker is not working to best ability under these circumstances and fabric will be ruined and wasted and employees will be sick and absent resulting in less production. The business suffers when employees suffer and that is the point.
