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Re: you'd be surprised
barb,
Is it possible that they do not know that what they are doing is an N/C? Or do they say that they know it isn't right but don't know any other way to do it? Some Auditors think that everybody is as knowledgable as they are. While not being audited to ISO, yet, I have had Auditors from other agencies say "You didn't know that?" I candidly would reply "No, I didn't". On the surface it may appear, to some anal auditors, that I was concealing something. In those situations, I would assure the Auditor that we would do the right thing. And, contrary to what some others would say about an Auditor being impartial, I would ask advice on how to comply.
Now, having said that, no Auditor is going to be able to help me with ISO because I have gotten so smart since joining the Cove! Especially when it comes to providing "Low Hanging Fruit" to keep an unreasonable Auditor busy.
Rest assure that I do not group you with those that would pick apples off the ground rather than climb the tree where the fresh stuff is.

barb butrym said:
if you could walk in my shoes......you would see a different side of things.....
there are some out there that would knowingly not correct a n/c, more than you would think...believe me.
if you could walk in my shoes......you would see a different side of things.....
there are some out there that would knowingly not correct a n/c, more than you would think...believe me.
Is it possible that they do not know that what they are doing is an N/C? Or do they say that they know it isn't right but don't know any other way to do it? Some Auditors think that everybody is as knowledgable as they are. While not being audited to ISO, yet, I have had Auditors from other agencies say "You didn't know that?" I candidly would reply "No, I didn't". On the surface it may appear, to some anal auditors, that I was concealing something. In those situations, I would assure the Auditor that we would do the right thing. And, contrary to what some others would say about an Auditor being impartial, I would ask advice on how to comply.
Now, having said that, no Auditor is going to be able to help me with ISO because I have gotten so smart since joining the Cove! Especially when it comes to providing "Low Hanging Fruit" to keep an unreasonable Auditor busy.
Rest assure that I do not group you with those that would pick apples off the ground rather than climb the tree where the fresh stuff is.


