Auditing Procedures we Authored - Conflict of Interest?

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qualityboi

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My co-worker and I are both writing (have been assigned to write) corporate procedures for corrective action and FMEAs and Control plans. Our group will own these procedures. We are auditors. Can we audit to these procedures without a conflict of interest as we do the quality manual?
 
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RoxaneB

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Re: Conflict of Interest?

You can audit how people apply the procedures and if they are following the procedures. You can not audit your role in the process. In my opinion...
 
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Re: Conflict of Interest?

No conflict. Unless you do the work. Doesn't matter if you write the procedures, someone else has to implement tham, so just be careful that you don't audit anything you've had a hand in doing........
 

Coury Ferguson

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Re: Conflict of Interest?

You can audit how people apply the procedures and if they are following the procedures. You can not audit your role in the process. In my opinion...
Roxane,

I agree whole heartily on this interpretation. :applause:
 
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BradM

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You can audit how people apply the procedures and if they are following the procedures. You can not audit your role in the process. In my opinion...
I agree. :yes:If you are really seeking to obtain value from your audits, having an auditor that is objective and impartial is optimal. For example, I can assure that the individuals are implementing the procedures. However, depending on the scope of the audit, it would be of value to know if the procedure (I wrote) is compliant with upper tier direction, format, etc. The more eyes on it the better, is my thought.

IMHO, the smaller the organization, the less clear the line becomes between conflict of interest/ objectivity (as in Dean's case). But if you get someone completely separate from that process, then, they may not be competent to review those areas.
 
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Re: Auditing Procedures we Author - Conflict of Interest?

I'm not sure that it's a function of the size of the organization, Brad. I've witnessed very impartial people who've audited their own work (to the 94 version) and found issues, which they happily reported and got fixed.

On the other hand, we see people who work for much larger corporations who seem to 'have it in' for some functions in the business - often than not, because they have some grave misunderstanding of that role. Indeed, we have auditors who post here and very clearly they have less than objective and impartial thoughts about audit situations/findings etc they've encountered.
 

BradM

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Re: Auditing Procedures we Author - Conflict of Interest?

Excellent points,:yes: Andy. Totally agree:agree1:. It's just whenever I look at my own work, I see perfection!:tg: For some reason, others don't see the same perfection that I do!:confused:

:lol:
 

Randy

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Re: Auditing Procedures we Author - Conflict of Interest?

Andy has it.....it's the unbiased impartiality and objectivity an auditor brings with him that has the value, not the independence.:yes:
 

Helmut Jilling

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Re: Auditing Procedures we Author - Conflict of Interest?

Excellent points,:yes: Andy. Totally agree:agree1:. It's just whenever I look at my own work, I see perfection!:tg: For some reason, others don't see the same perfection that I do!:confused:

:lol:

...ummm...you in particular might not want to audit your own work then, Bud...:cool:
 
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qualityboi

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So in my case I had to write a global procedure, however, I have no authority to make people do it...I guess I should just write the non-conformity now...:D
 
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