Auditing the Internal Audit Process - 8.2.2

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mlaurie

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Question! Stage 1 in Oct! An auditor can?t audit their own work. So I have someone audit 8.2.2 . But I?m Q manager and Q Rep, (we?re 10 person company), my name is on a lot of doc.s. What are the other area?s I should avoid? How do small companies do a system audit? Thanks
Mike in Sarasota
 
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Re: Audit the Auditor

Question! Stage 1 in Oct! An auditor can’t audit their own work. So I have someone audit 8.2.2 . But I’m Q manager and Q Rep, (we’re 10 person company), my name is on a lot of doc.s. What are the other area’s I should avoid? How do small companies do a system audit? Thanks
Mike in Sarasota
Any audit team member can audit the audit process as long as they do not audit their own work such as being directly In charge of the audit program. Typically I will add this statement to the procedure which is derived from ASQ/ISO 19011: “Selected auditor(s) can have direct responsibility in the selected area(s), but cannot audit their own work”.
 

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Re: Audit the Auditor

Question! Stage 1 in Oct! An auditor can’t audit their own work. So I have someone audit 8.2.2 . But I’m Q manager and Q Rep, (we’re 10 person company), my name is on a lot of doc.s. What are the other area’s I should avoid? How do small companies do a system audit? Thanks
Mike in Sarasota
If you are talking procedural documents, having your name on them may indicate you were involved with the creation (or revision) of the process, but not necessarily if you contributed to the performance of that process. Identify what processes or activities you contribute directly to the performance of (including any records generated by yours truly), and ensure you do not audit those facets. Keep it simple.

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