Auditing Treatment, Storage and Disposal Facilities - Non-Visit Audit

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vsedriver

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I need to do an audit of our Treatment, Storage, and Disposal Facilities for our ISO 14001 program. Do I need to actually visit these places or is there documentation I could request that would do the same job?
 
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Stijloor

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Re: Auditing Treatment, Storage, and Disposal Facilities

I need to do an audit of our Treatment, Storage, and Disposal Facilities for our ISO 14001 program. Do I need to actually visit these places or is there documentation I could request that would do the same job?
What is your level of trust?

Stijloor.
 
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Ted Schmitt

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I'd say fairly high. I only have two facilities I need to evaluate and both are very professional.

Goind along with what Stijloor said... if your trust level is high with their seriousness, then a visit might not be necessary. But if you want to sleep well at night and they are not to far, why not pay them a little visit ?

It´s really up to you...
 

harry

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Re: Auditing Treatment, Storage, and Disposal Facilities

As Randy wrote in this post:

There are three (3) dimensions to the process of "systems" auditing

1) Intent = How is the system designed (planned) and does the design (plan) met the requirements?

2) Implementation = Has the system been implemented as designed (planned)?

3) Effectiveness = Is the system as implemented achieving what it was designed (planned) to achieve and is improvement happening?

Audit your system, not the standard.
How could you satisfy item 2) and 3) if you don't visit the place?

We can have the most trust worthy person handling the process but if he lacks competency, had a different way of interpretation or do not understand our processes, we will have problems with implementation and effectiveness.
 
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vsedriver

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Re: Auditing Treatment, Storage, and Disposal Facilities

Friends,

"In God we trust, all others must provide data."

Stijloor
since these facilities are quite a distance I'd rather not have to do a physical visit. What data or documents would I need to show that our material has been properly disposed of? In this case it is old florescent light bulbs and small batteries.

I'm trying to satisfy our auditors for our ISO 14001 program.
 

Stijloor

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Re: Auditing Treatment, Storage, and Disposal Facilities

since these facilities are quite a distance I'd rather not have to do a physical visit. What data or documents would I need to show that our material has been properly disposed of? In this case it is old florescent light bulbs and small batteries.

I'm trying to satisfy our auditors for our ISO 14001 program.
Well, the intent is not to satisfy the auditors, the intent is take care of the environment. Have these sites generated records of disposal? Any other proof? Tough call from a distance.

Stijloor.
 
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vsedriver

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Re: Auditing Treatment, Storage, and Disposal Facilities

Well, the intent is not to satisfy the auditors, the intent is take care of the environment. Have these sites generated records of disposal? Any other proof? Tough call from a distance.

Stijloor.
In one case the company is ISO 14001 certified. Would that be considered proof?
 
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Phil Fields

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Re: Auditing Treatment, Storage, and Disposal Facilities

I need to do an audit of our Treatment, Storage, and Disposal Facilities for our ISO 14001 program. Do I need to actually visit these places or is there documentation I could request that would do the same job?
What is the purpose of your audit? Is there a reason why you do not want to travel to perform an onsite audit?

Phil
 
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