Automotive manufacturing process - Our process isn't exactly like APQP

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dhamilto

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We are a Tier I supplier to Ford and GM. Several months ago I led a week long event to capture how we manufacture our product and then compared it to the required APQP process. Although there were many similarities, there were many things that we did that does not match the APQP process.
I am currently doing a business research project that will identify and possibly recommend how we can marry the two together.
Are there others that manufacture products in a manner that does not exactly comform to the APQP process, and do you have any procedures?
 
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Welcome to the Cove,

Can you be a bit more specific as to what you want.
Your are Tier 1 to GM and Ford so that what ever your quality planning process is you are doing all right and they are happy with your results.
When you say your process is not a direct copy of the APQP hand book what don't you do? perform FMEA? you don't have a control plan?
No matter what I do not believe that 2 companies perform APQP in the same manner.
What are your differences in the process?
help us to help you.
 
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dhamilto

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APQP Process

Sorry I wasn't very specific. For a midsize manufacturing company the APQP process if done per the book, requires a significant amount of resources. In our company (as well as others) the same people assigned to the APQP process are the same ones that are tasked to keep the process going.
If anyone has a corporate staff that is in charge of the APQP process and the plants are in charge of the process, I'm sure you will see a difference in the steps or emphasis on certain portions.

There are many things that are a requirement from a manufacturing facility that are critical in the safe launch of a program, but not mentioned in the APQP process. I am looking for these types of comparisons.
 

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dhamilto said:
There are many things that are a requirement from a manufacturing facility that are critical in the safe launch of a program, but not mentioned in the APQP process. I am looking for these types of comparisons.
What we did was to start with the APQP requirements and go light weight on the things we did not see sa value added and really expand upon and focus o those things that we thought were vital.

We are a foundry so mold design and process de bugging are critical, so in our APQP process there was a lot of detail in these areas.

There was not a lot of detail in MSA for example, just a check that gage studies were on file.

So that is how we chose to meet both QS9000 and our own business requirements.

This approach survived many registrar and customer audits. It is after all our process.

Hope this helps.

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Mr.Nathan

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Ts 16949

Hi,

Im still not very clear with this system,can you tell what is different between QS 9000 and TS 16949. :confused:

regrds

nathan.
 

Howard Atkins

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Welcome to the cove :applause:

Mr.Nathan said:
Hi,

Im still not very clear with this system,can you tell what is different between QS 9000 and TS 16949. :confused:

regrds

nathan.
If you are asking in regard to APQP and PPAP there is basically no difference.
You must use the format that the customer wants. If this is the QS9000 format or the VDA format or any other it does not matter.
In fact in QS9000 if the customer wanted VDA he still got it.

If you mean the whole of TS then look at the threads in the ISO/TS forum. there are a number of discusssions as to the differences.
 
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