Helmut Jilling
Auditor / Consultant
I am a little surprised that no one asked Jan if they are tier 1 to one of the automotive companies. If they "are" tier 1 it is my understanding they would have to notify the certifying body. If they are not tier 1 it is my understanding that they need to meet the customers requirements.
We were placed on CS2 containment by our customer who was tier 1 to G.M. At my next surveliance audit I showed the auditor all of my CS2 documentation and they looked into it and concluded that since we were not tier 1 we had not needed to notify them upon being placed on CS2 containment.
Funny thing was 5 weeks after contracting Product Action and having them do a 100% visual inspection of my parts, a part was found at my customer that was missing 2 weld nuts. When I went to the customer and showed them that Product Action had been the ones who had performed the inspection they didn't care. They told me I had to re-inspect 100% of the product they had at their facility.
Worked out pretty nice for me because I got paid a bunch of overtime to inspect parts that had been inspected the previous week by my own people. This was because I had fired product action the week before for sending me a guy who was more interested in the girl who worked in shipping then he was in the parts he was inspecting.
I back charged product action for the time I spent re-inspecting parts and in the end all was well. My customer downgraded me to CS1 and we have been doing 100% visual inspection ever since. Now I get to come in on Saturday (at time and a half) and do weld destruct testing. The irony of it all is that the only one who made out was me.
Moral of the story is that it is best to calm down and take a cool approach to your situation. If you are not tier 1 your auditor/consultant may just be right.
As far as quiting a job over this: don't cut off your nose to spite your face.
The irony of the whole situation is if weld nuts were missing, it probably mistake-proofed itself out of the assembly process. The whole 3rd party sorting process has become a silly, very expensive, unnecessary and almost worthless activity in probably at least 90 - 95% of the cases. Especially if there were 1 or 2 items found.