Becoming an ISO27001 3rd Party Auditor

#1
Hi

I have 15+ years as a CISO, passed my ISO27k LA and now want to gain experience as a self employed / contract 3rd party auditor but not sure how to do this. Any help would be welcome.

thanks
 
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Jen Kirley

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#2
Welcome to The Cove! I am sorry for the delay in this response.

You did not say what part of the world you live in, but a 3rd party auditor could be traveling anywhere. If you don't have a valid passport, get one now.

BSI seems to be hiring. So is DNV and DQS, who is asking for someone who is already a 3rd party auditor (RCB) but I would apply anyway.

If you are in North America, you can search for other registrars in the ANAB CB Directory. Use the ISO/IEC 27001 search term and look at the top or bottom of their web pages for a Careers link.

If you do get a position as CB auditor, there are a number of us here who can advise you in how to manage your self employment.

I hope this helps!
 

Randy

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#3
Don't quit your day job in the meantime. Good luck and hopefully you'll love living out of a suitcase, hotels, restaurants, airports, rental cars, eating by yourself, and travelling to places you'll never get to see other than landing, driving across and taking off.
 

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#4
Listen to Randy. My suit case is still in its permanent station in my bedroom, based on my current job needing occasional travel and it's just too much effort to unpack and pack again. My suitcase is always 3/4 full. All it lacks is my day-to-day clothes. I permanently keep a pair of steel toe shoes in a rolly bag that is stationed at the ready in my office. I am ready to travel with 30 minutes notice or less, depending on who arranges my logistics.

There are things I miss about 3rd party auditing now that I have been a corporate employee for the last 15 months, but I can tell you that in my last life I was on the road for 40-45 weeks each year (Randy logs more) and my weekends were almost always not my own; much of my earnings went to professionals who kept my payroll going, and taxes straight and submitted on time (I was a one-person S corporation and would recommend that to anyone for tax reasons) so I brought home less than I do now. Then there was the lack of subsidized insurance, 401k matches, paid vacations and holidays... being your own boss sounds more romantic than it actually is.

That said, I found the work fulfilling and almost endlessly interesting in its variation of experiences. The lifestyle can be ideal if you have someone to manage your home affairs and you can afford to work part time. Many of us are retired and do this work to stay active and supplement our income to the extent we desire; the amount we work is based on our interests and needs. I miss going places, though like Randy said I was almost never able to actually see them. But I am getting antsy, mostly since the virus has curtailed travel for us corporate types.

The choice is yours. The pros and cons are starkly different.

I hope this helps!
 

Randy

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#5
Listen to Randy. My suit case is still in its permanent station in my bedroom, based on my current job needing occasional travel and it's just too much effort to unpack and pack again. My suitcase is always 3/4 full. All it lacks is my day-to-day clothes. I permanently keep a pair of steel toe shoes in a rolly bag that is stationed at the ready in my office. I am ready to travel with 30 minutes notice or less, depending on who arranges my logistics.

There are things I miss about 3rd party auditing now that I have been a corporate employee for the last 15 months, but I can tell you that in my last life I was on the road for 40-45 weeks each year (Randy logs more) and my weekends were almost always not my own; much of my earnings went to professionals who kept my payroll going, and taxes straight and submitted on time (I was a one-person S corporation and would recommend that to anyone for tax reasons) so I brought home less than I do now. Then there was the lack of subsidized insurance, 401k matches, paid vacations and holidays... being your own boss sounds more romantic than it actually is.

That said, I found the work fulfilling and almost endlessly interesting in its variation of experiences. The lifestyle can be ideal if you have someone to manage your home affairs and you can afford to work part time. Many of us are retired and do this work to stay active and supplement our income to the extent we desire; the amount we work is based on our interests and needs. I miss going places, though like Randy said I was almost never able to actually see them. But I am getting antsy, mostly since the virus has curtailed travel for us corporate types.

The choice is yours. The pros and cons are starkly different.

I hope this helps!
For the most part yep, I unpacked and repacked yesterday for my 1st road trip since March (but I've delivered over 60 remote audit days since April). The only thing that really changes are the clothes, soiled out-clean in. Taxes are a killer and we pay to have them done as well (2 -person S Corp and Judi is the boss, I'm just hired help). No holidays, a 3 day audit winds up being over 4-6 because of the report writing, audit planning (travel when travelling), ..... All but the actual audit time unpaid. Then there's the CPD stuff and the CB internal training (unpaid time, but if you wanna work you suck it up). Today I'm driving up to Tulsa, already did a couple emails, finished an audit plan and I'll be doing the same tonight at the Hilton.....all the work is unpaid time, but if you want the work you suck it up.........When you prorate the time to the audit you end up paying for the privilege to work....... So yeah go to the 3rd party world, you can make $100K+, but when you honestly break down the time it's not that great....But it is fun
 
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