Before the ISO-9001 certification audit can we submit the documents to our customer

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abcauto

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Question:-Before the ISO-9001 certification audit can we submitted the documents to our customer which indicate the applicable ISO clauses number’s and and ISO-9001-2008 references.?

Dear All,
We are an project based construction company.
We are now in the process of implementation of ISO system in our organization,and we are made a documents accordingly.

In the documents wherever applicable we indicated the ISO clause number and the references “as per ISO-9001-2008”
But still we are not audited by any external body,but one of our customer ask us for the procedure for internal audit and supportive format for the same.
Please tell me that is it ok to submitting the documents which indicate the ISO clause number and the referances “ISO-9001-2008”.

Please reply with proper justification or example.

Thanks ,
ANAND
 
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SteelMaiden

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As long as you do not say that you are registered/certified you may certainly implement an ISO 9001 compliant system and tell your customers that your system is based on ISO 9001. As long as you do not tell them that you have certification, and better yet, tell them what your plans are for certification, including a loose timeline.
 

Marc

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Re: Before the ISO-9001 certification audit can we submit the documents to our custom

To add to SteelMaiden's post, You can send your customer any of your procedures that you want to. If they ask for, and you want to send them, a copy of your Internal Audit procedure, there is nothing that says you can not. As to the referenced ISO 9001 clauses you mention, I assume you are saying your procedure(s) reference ISO 9001 which is typical in some companies.
 
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abcauto

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Re: Before the ISO-9001 certification audit can we submit the documents to our custom

but Is it ok before certification to send a procedure which indicated that this procedure is based on ISO 9001-2008 clause no XYZ
 

Randy

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Re: Before the ISO-9001 certification audit can we submit the documents to our custom

You can do anything you want as long as you do not make a claim that your system is certified.

Yes, you can!!!!
 
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Re: Before the ISO-9001 certification audit can we submit the documents to our custom

but Is it ok before certification to send a procedure which indicated that this procedure is based on ISO 9001-2008 clause no XYZ
Why not? Certification is entirely independent of compliance to ISO 9001. If you have an, as yet, uncertified QMS with these procedures, they can still be compliant - can't they? If you say they are!
 

somashekar

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Re: Before the ISO-9001 certification audit can we submit the documents to our custom

but Is it ok before certification to send a procedure which indicated that this procedure is based on ISO 9001-2008 clause no XYZ
Yes. You implement a QMS and a CB certifies it buy a process if you request and pay. If need be, make it clear to your customer that ' YOUR COMPANY IS NOT YET ISO 9001:2008 CERTIFIED' .
 
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abcauto

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Re: Before the ISO-9001 certification audit can we submit the documents to our custom

thanks all for your reply.If I am not wrong it is not mandetory in ISO 9001-2008 to certified by external certification body.

ANAND
 
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Re: Before the ISO-9001 certification audit can we submit the documents to our custom

thanks all for your reply.If I am not wrong it is not mandetory in ISO 9001-2008 to certified by external certification body.

ANAND
It may be! It depends if your customers are requiring it from you! For example, in the auto industry, you won't get work without ISO/TS certification - so it's mandatory!
 
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