Benefit risk analysis on pFMEA

#1
Hi everybody,
I hope you can guide my on something.
I’m writing pFMEA for packaging process for packaging medical device and i’m analysing the process to find all the risks that can produce harm to user/patient.
The pFMEA should answer the requirements of MDR and ISO 14971 and i’m not sure how to do benefit-risk analysis for each individual risk (do i need to do that for every risk?) and i should i do overall benefit risk analysis?
Examples will help.
 
Elsmar Forum Sponsor

pziemlewicz

Involved In Discussions
#2
The PFMEA will not talk about benefits, only risk. Process risks are given risk priority number based on severity, occurrence, and detection.

MDR and 14971 are also interested in your design and usability risks.
 

Tidge

Trusted Information Resource
#3
Some Notified Bodies will require an individual risk benefit analysis for lines of analysis in FMEA, even if they are completely subordinate to a Hazard Analysis. It doesn't make sense to me, but they will consider your implementation of 14971 deficient.
 

zoneofindifference

Starting to get Involved
#4
Some Notified Bodies will require an individual risk benefit analysis for lines of analysis in FMEA, even if they are completely subordinate to a Hazard Analysis. It doesn't make sense to me, but they will consider your implementation of 14971 deficient.
Even if there is appropriate links between the Hazard Analysis and underlying FMEA docs?
 

ThatSinc

Quite Involved in Discussions
#5
The pFMEA should answer the requirements of MDR and ISO 14971
Your Risk Management Process, and all resulting records, should answer the requirements of MDR and ISO14971 - how your pFMEA fits within your risk process will change what parts of 14971 must be covered by it.

If you consider your pFMEA as a means to identify sequences of events within your manufacturing process that could introduce hazards and/or lead to hazardous situations, and the individual probabilities of those happening, and align those with your hazard analysis which would document the hazard and hazardous situation, you will have a benefit/risk for the hazard and hazardous situation that captures the line item of the pFMEA.

However, as @Tidge has mentioned, some notified bodies are mandating all sorts of bizarre requirements.
I am still waiting for the NC's around disclosure of each and every residual risk identified.
 

Tidge

Trusted Information Resource
#6
Some Notified Bodies will require an individual risk benefit analysis for lines of analysis in FMEA, even if they are completely subordinate to a Hazard Analysis. It doesn't make sense to me, but they will consider your implementation of 14971 deficient.
Even if there is appropriate links between the Hazard Analysis and underlying FMEA docs?
"Links" don't establish that any given control in the linked documents is actually reducing risk. Two general points:
  1. The Hazard Analysis is where risks are analyzed. That's the only place where it makes sense to perform individual RBA
  2. Subordinate documents typically do not reference each other, so performing an RBA in a subordinate document is going to be completely ignorant of other subordinate documents with also "link" to the same "risk". For example: If you didn't pursue all means of 'reducing risk (not really risk) in a FMEA at a supplier' because of some control in another place (e.g. a design FMEA) it would be a complete waste of effort to write the same thing in both FMEA and the Hazard Analysis. The cross-reference only makes sense at the HA level.
Defect Awareness follows.: Performing individual RBA in an FMEA is going to motivate several bad behaviors/attitudes:
  • It propagates the idea that FMEA evaluate risks, but right in the name we know that this tool only evaluates failure modes.
  • Failure modes can contribute to risk, but the controls for specific failure modes don't always control risks.
  • A strict RBA analysis could imply the elimination/redesign of necessary (or otherwise acceptable) production processes because of some peculiar assessment of "final RBA" in a manufacturing FMEA. Without going into further detail, all I will write is "don't spill too much ink on the deburring process (for some devices)".
  • A team can consider any number of failure modes, no matter how unlikely they are to actually occur. The classic RPN tool is the mechanism to keep people from wasting time implementing controls for 'low priority' failure modes, but requiring individual "RBA" on all the lines actually defeats the purpose of FMEA.
  • FMEA are (in my opinion) the tool in which statistical analysis and study design can most legitimately/consistently used to evaluate the effectiveness of implemented controls. I am describing a quantitative assessment. Typically the RBA is a qualitative assessment. I don't believe it is logically consistent to have two different types of assessment for the same thing (here, RBA).
 
#7
I’m writing pFMEA for packaging process for packaging medical device and i’m analysing the process to find all the risks that can produce harm to user/patient.
I'm not sure a PFMEA is the place to determine the possibility of harm to a user/patient. It is used to determine the likelihood of failure modes.
You would need an additional document which analyses the link between those failure modes and hazards (this could conceivably be part of the PFMECA, but usually isn't), and then from those hazards to potential harms (which you should be doing as part of your risk management system anyway).

For packaging the effects of failure modes would generally be limited to loss of sterility and damage to the device (although "damage to device" covers a lot of ground)

The pFMEA should answer the requirements of MDR and ISO 14971 and i’m not sure how to do benefit-risk analysis for each individual risk (do i need to do that for every risk?) and i should i do overall benefit risk analysis?
Examples will help.
Ideally you should be taking all of your process risks, along with your design & usability risks, and considering them as a whole.
Whether a component breaks (for example) because of poor manufacturing controls or because of poor material selection/part design is pretty much irrelevant to your overall risk - the effect and potential for harm is still the same.

Once you have your overall risk, you can compare it to the inherent risk of the procedure the device is used in, the risk associated with current devices, the risk of not using the device etc etc. as part of your Benefit-Risk Analysis.
 
Last edited:

zoneofindifference

Starting to get Involved
#8
I'm not sure a PFMEA is the place to determine the possibility of harm to a user/patient. It is used to determine the likelihood of failure modes.
You would need an additional document which analyses the link between those failure modes and hazards (this could conceivably be part of the PFMECA, but usually isn't), and then from those hazards to potential harms (which you should be doing as part of your risk management system anyway).

For packaging the effects of failure modes would generally be limited to loss of sterility and damage to the device (although "damage to device" covers a lot of ground)



Ideally you should be taking all of your process risks, along with your design & usability risks, and considering them as a whole.
Whether a component breaks (for example) because of poor manufacturing controls or because of poor material selection/part design is pretty much irrelevant to your overall risk - the effect and potential for harm is still the same.

Once you have your overall risk, you can compare it to the inherent risk of the procedure the device is used in, the risk associated with current devices, the risk of not using the device etc etc. as part of your Benefit-Risk Analysis.
Since the severity rating in terms of patient harm is applied in the hazard analysis, do you use a different severity scale (perhaps focused on end effects, like loss of device function) in the PFMEA to help prioritize the failure modes before you have created the hazard analysis, or do you not have a severity rating at all in the PFMEA?
 
#9
Since the severity rating in terms of patient harm is applied in the hazard analysis, do you use a different severity scale (perhaps focused on end effects, like loss of device function) in the PFMEA to help prioritize the failure modes before you have created the hazard analysis, or do you not have a severity rating at all in the PFMEA?
As a design company (and legal manufacturer) that subcontracts assembly, we approach it from the opposite direction. We analyse our design risks and hazards (linking through to patient harms) as part of development. We do identify process risks (but not exhaustively) as part of Fault Tree Analysis of the design.

Generally, we generate PFMEA with our subcontractor under their QMS (rather than ours). The severity scores assigned would be influenced by our hazard analysis (ultimately through to patient/end-user harms).
 

Tidge

Trusted Information Resource
#10
Generally, we generate PFMEA with our subcontractor under their QMS (rather than ours). The severity scores assigned would be influenced by our hazard analysis (ultimately through to patient/end-user harms).
I want to echo that this is my preferred method for manufacturing process risks, even when the manufacturing is done "in-house". It should be somewhat obvious that a medical device manufacturer wouldn't be obligated to do 'individual risk control option analyses' for failure modes identified at a component supplier; I don't know why representatives of NBs insist that medical device manufacturers do them for ANY Failure Modes and Effects Analyses if the manufacturer has an over-arching Hazard Analysis. If there are specific, necessary risk controls identified in subordinate (to a Hazard Analysis) documents then the individual risk control option analysis ONLY brings value (and makes sense) at the Hazard Analysis level.

There may be peculiar corner cases where a subordinate analysis of failure modes could document trade-offs (specific to an implemented design or process wholly contained within that design/process element), but such documentation wouldn't be very likely be able to speak intelligently to how such controls contribute the overall risk profile for the device.
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
K Help with ISO 14971: Benefit-Risk Analysis ISO 14971 - Medical Device Risk Management 3
silentmonkey Overall Benefit/Risk Analysis - Risk Management VS Clinical Evaluation ISO 14971 - Medical Device Risk Management 3
R The term "Benefit Risk Ratio" in EU MDR, do I need to present benefit risk analysis as a RATIO Risk Management Principles and Generic Guidelines 4
A Risk-benefit Analysis - Hazard Analysis (HA) and FMEAs ISO 14971 - Medical Device Risk Management 18
Q Risk / benefit Analysis in Risk Management Report CE Marking (Conformité Européene) / CB Scheme 12
W Risk Benefit Analysis - ISO 14971:2012 Requirements ISO 14971 - Medical Device Risk Management 27
C Help with Risk/Benefit Analysis Self-help Device for Diabetics ISO 14971 - Medical Device Risk Management 3
J Does anyone have an example of Risk-Benefit Analysis per ISO 14971? Other ISO and International Standards and European Regulations 2
M Estimating the benefit-risk ration under MDR EU Medical Device Regulations 2
M Informational Final guidance – GUIDELINES on the benefit-risk assessment of the presence of phthalates in certain medical devices covering phthalates which are carc Medical Device and FDA Regulations and Standards News 0
M Informational FDA discussion paper – Consideration of Benefit-Risk Approaches for Weight-Loss Devices Medical Device and FDA Regulations and Standards News 0
M Informational US FDA Final Guidance – Consideration of Uncertainty in Making Benefit-Risk Determinations in Medical Device Premarket Approvals, De Novo Classificati Medical Device and FDA Regulations and Standards News 0
M Risk/Benefit vs. benefit-risk - Revising an SOP covering Risk Management with the MDR in mind EU Medical Device Regulations 10
M Informational EU – 12th Meeting of the Working Group on Guidelines on benefit – risk assessment of Phthalates in Medical Devices Medical Device and FDA Regulations and Standards News 0
M Informational EU – SCHEER – Minutes of the Working Group meeting on guidelines on the benefit-risk assessment of the presence of phthalates in certain medical devic Medical Device and FDA Regulations and Standards News 1
M Medical Device News FDA News - 14-09-18 - Benefit-Risk Factors to Consider for Substantial Equivalence Other US Medical Device Regulations 0
M Medical Device News FDA news - 05-09-18 - Draft - Uncertainty in Benefit-Risk Determinations Other US Medical Device Regulations 0
A MDSAP benefit for manufacturer of low-risk devices Canada Medical Device Regulations 3
AnaMariaVR2 Structured Approach to Benefit-Risk Assessment in Drug Regulatory Decision-Making Pharmaceuticals (21 CFR Part 210, 21 CFR Part 211 and related Regulations) 0
sagai New Draft Guidance from FDA - Factors considered for Risk/Benefit Determination Other US Medical Device Regulations 4
J The necessity and benefit of ISO13485:2016 for a manufacturer of class I devices ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 3
M Clinical Benefit of device that only aids in a process for managing or treating disease EU Medical Device Regulations 3
J ISO 9001 - How to decide if a company needs or will benefit from certification? ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 6
dgrainger Benefit - What is the definition of Benefit in ISO 14971? ISO 14971 - Medical Device Risk Management 7
P Does anyone know about Ontario Drug Benefit (ODB) program in Canada? Canada Medical Device Regulations 2
B Good Auditors - What is the benefit I get from NC & OFI General Auditing Discussions 25
Z Does a Tooling Build or Design Benefit From TS16949 IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 8
Sidney Vianna Study: Companies, employees benefit directly from ISO 9001 ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 35
J Cost-Benefit Analysis of Internal Quality Audit Misc. Quality Assurance and Business Systems Related Topics 1
Sidney Vianna How to get the greatest benefit from your AS9100 registration AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 0
ScottK Bills: what's the benefit to me of going paperless Coffee Break and Water Cooler Discussions 5
Ajit Basrur Booklet on Medical Devices for the benefit of all our employees ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 6
A Does Your Organization Really Benefit from Internal Audits? Time for a Change? Internal Auditing 149
B Form Identification Numbers - I do not really understand the benefit of a form number Document Control Systems, Procedures, Forms and Templates 13
H How internal audit benefit the management level? Internal Auditing 1
M Does 6 Sigma Really Give Benefit Or Improvment In Medium And Small Organisations? Six Sigma 1
D Registrars - Benefit or Burden? Registrars and Notified Bodies 7
D TS 16949 Cost Benefit Analysis IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 2
Marc Start Your Cost Benefit Analysis - Linux After Work and Weekend Discussion Topics 1
D Certification vs. Quality? Benefit to product quality? ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 1
J ROI NPV HRV DIF or payback time? Ways to calculate cost benefit analysis Misc. Quality Assurance and Business Systems Related Topics 11
S How to add a priority-cost/benefit function to our quality systems? Misc. Quality Assurance and Business Systems Related Topics 3
S Measuring benefit of QS9000 QS-9000 - American Automotive Manufacturers Standard 10
G FDA requirements for risk analysis US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) 2
T Corrective Action Risk Matrix AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 9
B Fluorescent Video System risk class EU Medical Device Regulations 6
A Risk Assessment for ISO 13485:2016 section 7?? ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 11
L HA vs risk analysis ISO 14971 - Medical Device Risk Management 2
Q Risk Controls in PFMEA ISO 14971 - Medical Device Risk Management 12
D What do you think of Chat GPTs answer to this Risk Acceptability question? ISO 14971 - Medical Device Risk Management 5

Similar threads

Top Bottom