BMW requirements for FMEA

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Hi all, during the recent IATF audit, it was highlighted that BMW is requiring suppliers to use FMEA 5th edition (AIAG/VDA 2019), rather than the old 4th edition. Also, it was mentioned that there is a requirement to use dedicated software and not Excel spreadsheets. I've heard about these requirements before, but now trying to find an official statement from BMW or their CSR on the IATF website, and cannot find any official statement/requirement. Maybe someone can direct me in the right direction where to look for the official requirement from BMW?
 
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There is no FMEA 5TH edition that I am aware of. There is a VDA/FMEA 1ST edition that is to start being used when your customer specified the model and year of car. I was trained to the new standard in 2020, when let's say (example) Ford decides they will let suppliers know '2024 Ford Fusion" shall have VDA/FMEA, 1st edition requirements.' This is totally different than the Excel Software versions. There is entirely new methods. I can't recall of hand, but it is entirely different and may confuse those who know the FMEA 4th edition way.

Each car manufactur will determine when this will start and it will be known by model and year defined. Many will stay with original way for some time as the change.

I hope this info helps. Look to what your customer specific requirements state for FMEA. Even if customer is not recognized by IATF you shall follow their current CSR. I was audited last month and they looked at all 6, only 1 is recognized by IATF.
 
#5
This is the only document you have to control and there you won't find AJAG/VDA methodology.
I've heard 2nd party auditors repeating nonsense, they have heard during auditing other suppliers.
Maybe it is same case.
That was exactly my point - there's no requirement in the BMW CSR, but I've heard about it many times (not just from our auditor) and was wondering where is it stated officially.
 
#6
That was exactly my point - there's no requirement in the BMW CSR, but I've heard about it many times (not just from our auditor) and was wondering where is it stated officially.
I’d encourage you to ask your CB and cite your auditor’s statement. The CB may not know (or even care) such stupidity is going on. After that you can decide their future as your CB.
 

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Hi all, during the recent IATF audit, it was highlighted that BMW is requiring suppliers to use FMEA 5th edition (AIAG/VDA 2019), rather than the old 4th edition. Also, it was mentioned that there is a requirement to use dedicated software and not Excel spreadsheets. I've heard about these requirements before, but now trying to find an official statement from BMW or their CSR on the IATF website, and cannot find any official statement/requirement. Maybe someone can direct me in the right direction where to look for the official requirement from BMW?
Highlighted as a nonconformity? Or just mentioned as a comment?

Another case of rumours and gossip - as already stated, there is only the CSR as Sebastian has provided.
 
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