Calibration & Testing Lab here in the States - RA Audit - Wow!

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Ken11

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We're a calibration & testing lab here in the States. We just recently had our audit, in light of the recent ILAC actions with uncertainties, the accreditation bodies, etc., all I can say to start a discussion is .... Wow!

Anybody care to comment? Please.
 
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We're a calibration & testing lab here in the States. We just recently had our audit, in light of the recent ILAC actions with uncertainties, the accreditation bodies, etc., all I can say to start a discussion is .... Wow!

Anybody care to comment? Please.
Thanks Ken11. Could you share more of your audit experiences ?
 
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JAltmann

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We're a calibration & testing lab here in the States. We just recently had our audit, in light of the recent ILAC actions with uncertainties, the accreditation bodies, etc., all I can say to start a discussion is .... Wow!

Anybody care to comment? Please.
IMO any good lab shouldn't have an issue with these changes. The ones who have someone else create their uncertianty budget for them and don't really understand uncertianty are the one that will have trouble.
 
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projectgregory

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IMO any good lab shouldn't have an issue with these changes. The ones who have someone else create their uncertianty budget for them and don't really understand uncertianty are the one that will have trouble.
Well I would say that all staff in a lab should know how to write an uncertainty budget, or they are not a very good lab.
 
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Pat McGhie

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We're a calibration & testing lab here in the States. We just recently had our audit, in light of the recent ILAC actions with uncertainties, the accreditation bodies, etc., all I can say to start a discussion is .... Wow!

Anybody care to comment? Please.
A little more detail would help... I am not sure if you are WOW'ed by how well you did or all of the items the auditor wrote up...

Pat in NH
 
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Ken11

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I guess a little more detail would indeed help. I am really hoping to hear from people who have recently went through their own audit.

Thanks.
 
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Jen Kirley

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I guess a little more detail would indeed help. I am really hoping to hear from people who have recently went through their own audit.

Thanks.
That's understandable, but without something specific to relate to I think many Covers would not know what to offer that would have meaning for you.

Are you referring to the 2010 ILAC Policy for Uncertainty in Calibration? If so, did something in it catch you by surprise? If so, what was it?
 
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Put another way is it:-

Wow - that was easy!

Wow - that was awful!

Wow - we didn't see THAT one coming!

Wow - we made it, the auditor didn't look/ask about 'X'

Wow - why are we doing this!

Wow - we need to get another auditor/accreditation body...

??????
 

Hershal

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Put another way is it:-

Wow - that was easy!

Wow - that was awful!

Wow - we didn't see THAT one coming!

Wow - we made it, the auditor didn't look/ask about 'X'

Wow - why are we doing this!

Wow - we need to get another auditor/accreditation body...

??????
I can only echo the others, having a wee bit more information regarding your assessment may help response.

As for the last statement, remember there are 6 ILAC Signatory ABs based in the US that do both test and cal labs. If you feel that strongly, then talk to the other five besides the one you signed with.

Uncertainty is a challenging subject, and not everyone can - or should - do the uncertainty budget in the lab, in my opinion, depending on lab size and personnel duties. But everyone does need to know enough to spot the contributions and understand the effect that the contributions have.

Just my thoughts.
 
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