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Well I would hope the auditors to have common sense. But we auditors are notoriously hard to calibrate, so we should take care not to confuse lack of alignment with silliness.
17025's elements mirror 9001 requirements in most cases, so I don't see why a 17025 qualified auditor can't at least help out with 9001 audits. I would consider taking advantage of this person's strengths, so auditing calibration seems like an obvious choice but maybe Design should be dome by someone more familiar with Engineering.
17025's elements mirror 9001 requirements in most cases, so I don't see why a 17025 qualified auditor can't at least help out with 9001 audits. I would consider taking advantage of this person's strengths, so auditing calibration seems like an obvious choice but maybe Design should be dome by someone more familiar with Engineering.
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Thank you for the responses.
I was thinking that a self study or classroom session of the Section 7 should satisfy that the ISO 17025 auditor can audit ISO 9001. They already have the understanding on how to audit, it is a matter of understanding section 7 and asking the appropriate questions and objective evidence. Would you agree? Are there any other sections that ISO 17025 does not cover? I could not find any.
Thanks again!
I was thinking that a self study or classroom session of the Section 7 should satisfy that the ISO 17025 auditor can audit ISO 9001. They already have the understanding on how to audit, it is a matter of understanding section 7 and asking the appropriate questions and objective evidence. Would you agree? Are there any other sections that ISO 17025 does not cover? I could not find any.
Thanks again!
Competent - having the necessary ability or skills : able to do something well or well enough to meet a standard -
So if you do not have the skills or necessary ability - you are not competent.
I know a bunch of auditors that I need to stop their process and thinks because lack of common sense prevented them to see beyond the "aha" moment - years later.... they are still in the same place.
This is the main reason customers do not want certain auditors in their facility.
So if you do not have the skills or necessary ability - you are not competent.
I know a bunch of auditors that I need to stop their process and thinks because lack of common sense prevented them to see beyond the "aha" moment - years later.... they are still in the same place.
This is the main reason customers do not want certain auditors in their facility.
