Can the Management Manual have only Issued and Approved By?

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smartengine

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can the management manual have only "Issued" and "Approved"?

Or it should be: "Issued", "Checked" , "Approved" ?

if so, can the "checker" and "approved" be the same person?
 
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can the management manual have only "Issued" and "Approved"?

Or it should be: "Issued", "Checked" , "Approved" ?

if so, can the "checker" and "approved" be the same person?
I think that if some approves something, she/he should know what she/he is doing, so , as a logical process, she/he reads the contents.
I think it is only a question of verbiage, we should look at the effectiveness and efficiency of the process/activity in whatever item to be accomplished.
 

Marc

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Checker and approved must be different individuals.
Is there a requirement somewhere that states this? My bet is some industries/standard(s) may require it, but I'm not aware of any off hand.

Probably on prints and documents like that.
 

RoxaneB

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Checker and approved must be different individuals.
Further to Marc's question regarding the documented requirement for this, if it "must" be different individuals, please explain what the purpose of the two functions (i.e., checker and approver) is - Do they have different objectives in the life cycle of the manual?

I ask only because when it comes to the manual, I'm only used to seeing the approver(s) - in my case, it was the multiple members of the senior leadership team.

The procedures and work instructions had approvers and issuers, however.
 

Marc

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I'm used to seeing "checker" on prints. I don't recall it from anywhere else. I assume the same function for "standard" documents is "reviewed by", and even that isn't something I used to see a lot. Usually the same person(s) reviewed and approved documents. But again - It depended upon the company and industry.
 

qusys

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gusys,
Checker and approved must be different individuals.
Regards,
Agree with Marc .
From general standpoint, I believe in multidisciplinary approach in quality documentation preparedness. Quality experts usually work in teamwork with process owner and representative of QMS processes for quality manual and relation procedures generation , sometimes helped by external consultant. By doing so, they assure the correctness of the information, in a second time top mgmt validate the contents. This should be the natural flow.
Who should be the "checker" if all the "expert" work together in the preliminary phase?
 
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kgott

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can the management manual have only "Issued" and "Approved"?

Or it should be: "Issued", "Checked" , "Approved" ?

if so, can the "checker" and "approved" be the same person?
I think I've missed something here.

Why does a management manual have to be approved?? If so, why can it not be done by the person who writes it?? Whats wrong with a statement, this document is approved by the executive management or, whatever the main job title is?

In my view, a manual is not a document required for the planning, operation and control of the business with such importance that approval signatures are required. As I see it, a manual is a road map to whatever management system it the subject matter is.

Links to the document are sent to key stakeholders to read it and comment on it if they want??
 
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