Can the mandatory procedures of ISO 9001-2008 be documented within one procedure?

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JLSMITH

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Good Morning All:

I need clarification on the mandatory procedures of ISO 9001-2008. The company that I work is going implementing ISO to become certified. We have/had a Quality System ISO compliant, but there are certain procedures that need clarification.

My question is since we currently have a procedure QAP 4.13 Control of Non-Conforming Material (8.3 element) can the mandatory procedures Corrective Action and Preventive Action be incorporated into that procedure?

Also can Control of Records (4.2.4 element) be incorporated into another already existing procedure?

Thank you for your help in this matter and looking forward to your suggestions.:confused:
 
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somashekar

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~~~ Welcome here to the COVE JLSMITH ~~~
As long as you have the documented procedure in your quality management system you are OK. All these procedures can even be a part within your quality manual.
 
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JLSMITH

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Thank you for your help!

Yes we do have a documented procedures within our Quality management System but the numbering system doesn't follow the sequence numbering of ISO. Is that a okay if I put a cross reference chart in the back of the manual?

Thanks again for you help...
JLSMITH
 

somashekar

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Thank you for your help!

Yes we do have a documented procedures within our Quality management System but the numbering system doesn't follow the sequence numbering of ISO. Is that a okay if I put a cross reference chart in the back of the manual?

Thanks again for you help...
JLSMITH
Yes, That is as simple and done. The quality manual has the reference to the documented procedures.
 
#5
Good Morning All:

I need clarification on the mandatory procedures of ISO 9001-2008. The company that I work is going implementing ISO to become certified. We have/had a Quality System ISO compliant, but there are certain procedures that need clarification.

My question is since we currently have a procedure QAP 4.13 Control of Non-Conforming Material (8.3 element) can the mandatory procedures Corrective Action and Preventive Action be incorporated into that procedure?

Also can Control of Records (4.2.4 element) be incorporated into another already existing procedure?

Thank you for your help in this matter and looking forward to your suggestions.:confused:
I'd suggest NOT doing that. There is no need to take corrective action when dealing with non-conforming product - you are allowed to do other things. So, in my experience to incorporate the two procedures will be confusing.

What is the idea behind combining these procedures? Records can be dealt with in other documentation, for example. I wouldn't combine it with document control, for example.

And, you don't need to number documents, least of all referenced to ISO. A simple table would suffice if you really have to!
 
#6
Welcome to the Cove, JLSMITH :bigwave:
Is that a okay if I put a cross reference chart in the back of the manual?
JLSMITH
Yes it is, and not only that: There is in fact no requirement for any cross reference chart or indeed any numbering of clauses at all in your system. What you are required to do is to cover the requirements of the standard, but how you choose to set up your written procedures is up to you.

Mind you, most of us do use numbered clauses. :notme:

/Claes
 
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