Can the person behind ISO Certification also be the Internal Auditor?

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noboost4you

#1
I am currently the one creating/pulling together everything our company will need in order to go through ISO 9001:2000 certification. My MR would also like me to be the Internal Auditor. According to the standard "Auditors shall not audit their own work." Does this apply to me where I have created pretty much everything (with the help of individuals here and there)?

Basically, can I still be the Internal Auditor even though I'm organizing everything?

:thanx:
 
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Marc

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#2
Yes, you can. You're auditing the company systems, not your implementation project.
 

Paul Simpson

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#4
Hold on a minute!

Agree with Marc, with one proviso .... I presume you have a job at the company apart from ISO system implementation. You shouldn't audit areas where you are responsible for the work being carried out.

You then need an independent auditor to check you are doing your (real) job properly - in accordance with the systems you developed. :lol:
 

Colin

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#5
Agree with Marc and Paul but just to add the obvious - someone must audit the auditor! In other words, someone will need to audit the internal audit process and probably the management review too if you are running that.
 

SteelMaiden

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#6
Can I ask a really stupid question? If you are the one who is implementing the system, why are you not the management rep?
 

ScottK

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#8
"the" internal auditor? He's only planning on one?
I suppose for a small company that's OK, but that's kind of putting all the eggs in one basket isn't it?

Heck - I have 8, not including myself. And we have less than 150 people total.
 

SteelMaiden

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#10
That thought has crossed my mind numerous times. That title/role went to our Vice President.

Well, I hope that he is actually learning the system, because it might look a little hinkey for the auditor to have to interview you for all the management rep responsibility stuff.
 
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