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Can we Exclude Design and Development clause in ?Industrial Design? Company?

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kashizadeh

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Can we Exclude Design and Development clause in “Industrial Design” Company?

I work for “industrial design “company. Our company design product for manufactures.
We do not manufacture what we design. Our out put is some maps. We do not design our design approach. Can we exclude design and development clause from our QMS?:confused:
 
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kashizadeh

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Re: Can we exclude design and development clause in “industrial design” company?

Anybody does not respond to me?
please help. it is very important for me.
 

Randy

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Re: Can we exclude design and development clause in “industrial design” company?

You're a design company and you want to exclude design? Sure I don't see why not. It's your system, do what you think is right.
 

Jim Wynne

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Re: Can we exclude design and development clause in “industrial design” company?

I work for “industrial design “company. Our company design product for manufactures.
We do not manufacture what we design. Our out put is some maps. We do not design our design approach. Can we exclude design and development clause from our QMS?:confused:
Can you please clarify what it is that your company does?
 

Wes Bucey

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Re: Can we exclude design and development clause in “industrial design” company?

Anybody does not respond to me?
please help. it is very important for me.
Please understand that you posted during the North American weekend when Cove visits are at their lowest point in the week. You will probably receive more responses as folks log on from work Monday and Tuesday..

In response to your query, it is crucial for us to know whether
  • you draft designs in response to customer direction (like a draftsman making finished drawings from an engineer's sketches)
    or whether
  • you create designs and then sell them to customers who then manufacture them (like an architect who sells plans to a builder or developer who then constructs the buildings.)
 
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kashizadeh

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Re: Can we Exclude Design and Development clause in “Industrial Design” Company?

We are architects planner engineers company and we create designs and then sell them to customers who then manufacture them.
 
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Re: Can we Exclude Design and Development clause in “Industrial Design” Company?

Your product is Designs or drawings, do you design your designs?

If you design and create your product which are designs I would say you designed it and cannot be excluded!

If you are not designing anything just transposing a design for a customer then you may be excluded!

:mg:
 

Coury Ferguson

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Re: Can we Exclude Design and Development clause in “Industrial Design” Company?

I work for “industrial design “company. Our company design product for manufactures.
We do not manufacture what we design. Our out put is some maps. We do not design our design approach. Can we exclude design and development clause from our QMS?:confused:
I have bolded the comment in your quote to emphasis the need to include "Design" in your scope, in my opinion.
 

SteelMaiden

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Re: Can we Exclude Design and Development clause in “Industrial Design” Company?

If your sole product is designing designs (wow, what a mouth full), just exactly what would you be registering to ISO 9001 if you exclude the design element? :confused: Sorry, I don't mean to sound sarcastic about this, I truly do not see any benefit in registering a design firm excluding design.
 

Colin

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Re: Can we Exclude Design and Development clause in “Industrial Design” Company?

I guess that the confusion may arise that design could be considered their 'product realisation'. However, I agree that they should not be looking to exclude it.
 
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