Can You Reject an Auditor?

Ron Rompen

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Always remember, the auditor works for YOU, not the other way around. If you don't like the auditor (for some valid reason) then by all means let your CB/registrar know, and request that they send you someone else for your next audit. I have dealt with good and bad auditors over the years, and have never had a problem saying that I didn't want someone back.
 
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Sidney Vianna

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Always remember, the auditor works for YOU,
I know what you mean, but there is a reason they are referred to as THIRD PARTY AUDITORS. The concept is that they are not supposed to compromise their assessments to satisfy the (paying) registrant. Yes, the CB is working under a contractual relationship with the registrant, but, in principle, they should be working as representatives of the registrants customers.

Way too often, this aspect is ignored and the auditors forget why they are there, to start with.
 

Randy

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the auditor works for YOU,
Nope.. The auditor is working for whoever is paying them, in my case I don't "work" for the CB that I represent, I work for my legal employer (my wife under her corporate structure in this case) who is contracted to supply a specific person (me) to provide specifically defined auditing services under the CB's policies, procedures and those of the AB & MLA organizations as applicable. I'm obligated by my personal code, my CB's ethical standards, and my personal professional certifications to be as honest, ethical, objective and independent as possible in providing those services. I'm also bound to look out for my employers, my CB's and the auditees best interests concurrently.

I believe (hope in fact) that some of the folks here in the Cove I've run into from the other side of the table can attest to the above. It's what I taught I don't know how many auditing and other professionals and it's what I attempt to practice.

If you don't think your auditor can meet those simple parameters remember, the door swings open both ways.
 

Scanton

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#14
I had a nightmare auditor during my IATF 16949 re-certification audit last year. He interpreted parts of the standard incorrectly, made stuff up and wouldn't look at evidence that showed our compliance to certain clauses, and then raised a nonconformity. I should have known what was coming as he informed me (during the audit) of previous audits that year where people had complained about him and even one where he got barred from a site by the MD. Needless to say I complained to the CB who explained I had to stay with the same auditor for the 3 year cycle, to which I tactfully explained that that would be difficult for him to do from the curb side, as he would not be allowed on our site again.

We have another auditor now, fingers crossed that this one is like all of the others I have crossed paths with over the last 25 years (good people) and not like the last one.
 

Randy

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I had a nightmare auditor during my IATF 16949 re-certification audit last year. He interpreted parts of the standard incorrectly, made stuff up and wouldn't look at evidence that showed our compliance to certain clauses, and then raised a nonconformity. I should have known what was coming as he informed me (during the audit) of previous audits that year where people had complained about him and even one where he got barred from a site by the MD. Needless to say I complained to the CB who explained I had to stay with the same auditor for the 3 year cycle, to which I tactfully explained that that would be difficult for him to do from the curb side, as he would not be allowed on our site again.

We have another auditor now, fingers crossed that this one is like all of the others I have crossed paths with over the last 25 years (good people) and not like the last one.
Good job and you were fibbed to, you didn't have to keep the auditor 3 years, he's not allowed to audit more than 3 years under existing rules.
 
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