CAR vs ECO/ECN - How do I merge CAR with ECO or ECR/ECN procedure seemlessly

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marcbicknell2002

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The company I work for has an internal CAR procedure that deals with non-conformances of products. How do I merge this with and ECO or ECR/ECN procedure seemlessly. For a small company some of the procedures i've seen seen very time consuming. Any thought, suggestions or sample procedures would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Re: CAR vs ECO/ECN

The company I work for has an internal CAR procedure that deals with non-conformances of products. How do I merge this with and ECO or ECR/ECN procedure seemlessly. For a small company some of the procedures i've seen seen very time consuming. Any thought, suggestions or sample procedures would be greatly appreciated.
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If I understand you correctly, you're asking about some sort of "bridge" between your CAR and engineering change processes (correct me if I'm wrong). I'm not sure anything you do is going to be "seamless" because you're dealing with separate (but related) processes.

If you have a CAR form, you can cite an ECO as a possible corrective action, and then use your CAR followup process to confirm that the ECO is issued/completed.
 
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marcbicknell2002

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Thanks for the insight, i'm writing the procedure to link the CAR with the ECO currently. There are procedures that have an ECR then ECN but that is just too much work IMO. I'm looking to combine the ECR/ECN concept into one ECO form. Do you know of any defined procedures on this forum already and a form to start from?

Thanks Again!!

Marc
 

Jim Wynne

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Thanks for the insight, i'm writing the procedure to link the CAR with the ECO currently. There are procedures that have an ECR then ECN but that is just too much work IMO. I'm looking to combine the ECR/ECN concept into one ECO form. Do you know of any defined procedures on this forum already and a form to start from?

Thanks Again!!

Marc
Go up to the top of the page where you'll see this:



and click on "Post Attachments List." You can search for ECO/ECN forms there--I'm sure there are some there.
 
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DrM2u

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Thanks for the insight, i'm writing the procedure to link the CAR with the ECO currently. There are procedures that have an ECR then ECN but that is just too much work IMO. I'm looking to combine the ECR/ECN concept into one ECO form. Do you know of any defined procedures on this forum already and a form to start from?

Thanks Again!!

Marc
Why do you need a documented procedure for ECO/ECN? Is it required by the standard or needed by the organization? I am not sure what standard you are working with but many of them do not require it.

Can you achieve the integration of CARs & ECO through an electronic system/database that triggers an ECO if needed? I know of some software packages on the market that do that. I have also seen something as simple as having a checkbox & reference to the ECO on the CAR form.

I suggest that you follow the existing process and map it so you can develop your procedure or instruction based on that. Then you can verify compliance with the requirements and modify documentation and/or process as necessary ... Try to use th KISS approach.
 
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