Certificate Suspension Necessary in case of No Production?

#1
Dear All;

Imagine that one company is certified and all the production records were seen during the certification. however due to financial issues, one year later, the certification body saw that there were no production at all. all they can see is the same records.
do they need to suspend or cancel the certificate? or do they need to update the scope and exclude production?

what do you think ?
 
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#2
That's strange. Most CB's would NOT suspend the validity of the certiuficate because of a major nonconformity.The 2011 Edition of that standard has been out for a number of months. It reads, in part, No, it isn't. Typically CB's would suspend a trigger a certificate suspension if a major nonconformity is not resolved within the allocated timeframe, but just issuing a major nonconformity does not lead to a cetificate suspension, by most CB's, compliant to ISO 17021.

I remember that this suspension was related to ISO TS certification , within 90 day the organization shall provide corrective action plan and demonstrate effective improvement
 
#3
I agree but some say that. if they can not find any positive evidence that the qms is in place, they should at least re-define the scope of registration and exclude production.

any other idea?
 
M

MIREGMGR

#4
Speaking hypothetically, a company in such circumstances should have much more open communications with their NB in regard to changes in company status and operations.

If nothing else, in many cases the contract for the NB's services mandates such full communication.
 

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#5
Dear All;

Imagine that one company is certified and all the production records were seen during the certification. however due to financial issues, one year later, the certification body saw that there were no production at all. all they can see is the same records.
do they need to suspend or cancel the certificate? or do they need to update the scope and exclude production?

what do you think ?
The CB would not simply just make a decision without any input from the company. Imagine if the company stated "Times are really tough, but we do not intend on stopping production. When we receive orders, we will start up again".

As mentioned by MIREGMGR, it would be very bizarre if a company did not notify the CB (prior to their visit) of the circumstances. I suppose the scenario could happen, but it's pretty unlikely.
 
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