Certification Bodies - ISO 19011 and ISO 17011 Requirements

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sridharafep

1. Certification body using freelancers for auditing the organization to make profit or to be competitive. By the way the freelancer's are basically also running consultancy job / training etc. How can they maintain the integrity of the audit information.

2. Many CB running consultancy service and training using their subsidiary company for a reason. Here the consultant or trainer is other way auditor for the organization!

3. Why do we need to have frequent surveillance (minimum once in six-month or one year) – why don’t we think of leave this responsibility to organization internal audit system? and CB can do once X years or review audit reports?

4. ISO 9001 certificate validity is only 3 years why not increase?

5. Acceptance of one CB certificate issued by another CB / for example an organization holding three product quality mark license from three or more sources and they are forced to have 3 or more ISO 9001 certificates from all the CB.

6. Your views on Benching marking of certification body.
 

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Re: Certification Body and ISO 19011 / ISO 17011 requirements

For the first two question, you should sign off a Non Disclosure agreement with your CB.
However , the CB auditor cannot make consultancy when auditing...I do not understand well :confused:
For 3 and 4 , there are rules of the CB for surveillance audit, the same for the cycle for certification. QMS could undego under important modifications, processes can change and so CB shall assure that all is ok. # years cycle could be reasonable.This is my idea and this is established in CB rules.

For the 5, I do not understand the question :confused:
You certify the quality system with ISO not product. To certify product is another story and follow different standards.

Hope this helps:bigwave:
 
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sridharafep

Re: Certification Body and ISO 19011 / ISO 17011 requirements

1. How to ensure the effectiveness?

2. Consultancy Not during audit!

3.The maturity of the system / It should be the responsibility of the Organization to make sure / or call CB for any major changes - just not policing

4.Product (Quality Mark) certification includes the QMS audit too as part of the product license package. Say we have “Elsmar” quality mark from A body and “Marc” quality mark from B body. A & B will do independently QMS audit even though there is a QMS certification from C Body and also assess the product Q mark. - hope not confused.
 
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