Certifying our house for Hardness and Conductivity Testing

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bronco-vinny

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I was give the task to look into certifying our house for hardness and conductivity testing any one have any ideas and know the requirements? or where I need to look and what company's do this.
 
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Tom W

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This sounds like you are talking about getting accredited for hardness and conductivity testing? This is usually done through a certifying body and achieving lab accreditation. Not sure if you really need that or if you can an outside service for that.

Can you explain more of what you are looking for? You do hardness testing and conductivity testing in house and someone wants you to be accredited?
 
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bronco-vinny

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Yes, I'm trying to get accredited, we are currently paying outside processors we have the Rockwell Tester and Conductivity tester we what to stop paying fees for this process.
 

Jim Wynne

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I was give the task to look into certifying our house for hardness and conductivity testing any one have any ideas and know the requirements? or where I need to look and what company's do this.
Do you have a copy of 17025? That would be the place to start, and should give you an idea of what's required. You are looking for accreditation, not certification, btw. Quality systems are certified; labs are accredited.
You can look at Wikipedia reference-linkISO/IEC 17025 for a general overview of lab accreditation, as well as some information about Accrediting Bodies (ABs, commonly) which are the organizations that audit and accredit labs.
 
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Tom W

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Yes, I'm trying to get accredited, we are currently paying outside processors we have the Rockwell Tester and Conductivity tester we what to stop paying fees for this process.
You may want to clarify if you have to get accredited or if you could just have your units calibrated and that would be good enough. Accreditation is a big step for a small lab with just a couple items.

Jim referred to some good things for you to look into but I would first ask the question of the customer or your organization: Do we need to be accredited – like AL2A or can we just calibrate our equipment and certify product with that.
 

Hershal

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If you are an end user of the hardness tester, then you should have a calibration provider accredited to ISO/IEC 17025:2005 come calibrate the testers for you and as Tow pointed out that should be fine.

If you are a test or calibration laboratory and are seeking accreditation, then first step is to get a copy of ANS/ISO/IEC 17025:2005 and read it.

Accreditation is down the road aways if that is the path you need; however it is certainly achieveable.

As has been stated, accrediting bodies (ABs) are the ones that conduct the assessments and issue the accreditation. The link provided is good but for accrediting bodies is incomplete (not under Jim's control), as there are six recognized ABs based in the U.S., they are: IAS, NVLAP, A2LA, ACLASS, L-A-B, and PJLA, all for both testing and calibration.

Now, technical standards also come into play for hardness and conductivity. Those will likely be ASTM for those two.

A little more information about your need and usage will help us help you better.
 
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bronco-vinny

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It would be ASTM since most of our work curreently done is certified to ASTM spec.

Thank you all
 

Hershal

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Are you testing parts for your own use internally, testing for someone else, calibrating the machines?

That will help us help you better.
 
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