Chrysler CSR November 2007 - Internal Audit Requirements

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rjkozak

#11
Here is a clarification on the topic-


from Chrysler -CSR clarification December 6, 2007




"In response to your question, Chrysler is not planning on rolling out any special form to perform the self-assessment. If desired, your clients could certainly develop their own form that captures the Objectives, Example Metrics and Support Mechanisms identified in the Powerpoint presentation.

I suggest however that they take the approach that we have suggested in our Customer Specific Requirements...and allow the flexibility for these self-assessment items to be done by them or their tiers as a part of their next internal audit.

Chrysler's intent is not to proliferate any additional audits. In the spirit of ISO/TS-16949, and the Process Approach, it is desired that they effectively combine the Manufacturing Basics elements of Objectives, Example Metrics and Support Mechanisms into their internal audits. This approach will help avoid any duplication and still meet Chrysler's requirements.

I suspect that you'll find your clients (and their tiers') existing Quality Management System already addresses the majority of these items.

Please reinforce the above Chrysler position with your clients.


Regards,"

David P. Fowler
AQP Strategy & Processes
External Quality Programs
Supplier Quality
Procurement & Supply
Chrysler
OUTSIDE: (248) 576-3553 T/L: 776-3553
fax: (248) 576-2189
eMAIL: [email protected] "
 
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Minvarian

#13
This was provided to us by our Customer rep responsible for Chrysler.

Eric

Edit: Sorry, I was on page one and didn't move to page 2 until I had posted to see that someone beat me to the punch.
 

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mwebs

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I found the Basic elements, I am just wondering if there is a self-assessment form that has to be filled out.
 
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mwebs

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Re: Chrysler CSR November 2007

Ok, no form - has anyone designed one that would like to share to give me some ideas?
 

Stijloor

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#17
Re: Chrysler CSR November 2007

Ok, no form - has anyone designed one that would like to share to give me some ideas?
Hello! Good to see back here at the Cove. :bigwave:

This is what Chrysler wants:

4.2.9 Internal Quality Audits
The organization shall conduct an internal quality audit at least once per year. As a part of the internal quality audit, the organization shall perform a self-assessment to ensure their Quality Management System is in compliance with the Objectives, Example Metrics and Support Mechanisms defined in Chrysler’s document “Elements Of Manufacturing Basics”. This self-assessment is mandatory, beginning with the organization’s first internal audit occurring on or after 7 January 2008. The document is available through the
Chrysler Global Supplier Portal via the “Quality Management Systems Information” page.

This self-assessment requirement also applies to the organization’s supply base (all suppliers).

The organization (and all suppliers) shall maintain records of this self-ssessment including any corrective actions required for compliance.


The intent is that you look at your Quality Management System and verify that your company has something in place that is the equivalent of what Chrysler is talking about in that brochure. A checklist is not required. But you must be able to provide evidence......:frust: :frust:

So I cooked up a simple one page form that will allow you to record your company's equivalent activities. I only had time to do one page, (PEOPLE) but when you see it, you get the idea what to do next.

Don't take this thing as required, mandatory, or best practice....just an idea.

See attached for the example.

Stijloor.
 

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Ok, no form - has anyone designed one that would like to share to give me some ideas?
My approach will be to simply ignore this until acted upon by either our registrar or Chrysler.

Then I will likely build a cross reference showing where our system meets these requirements. Since we audit the the system once a year, that will be that.

Sorry, gotta go, the phone is ringing, likely another demand for a price reduction to go along with the extra requirements...heck, this made us so much better we should be happy to reduce our price.
 
#19
These types of customer specifics appear to me to be 'grabbing at straws', without a really practical basis of implementation. If you can get away without having to do much more than a simple paperwork exercise, then that's all I'd recommend, too.

Reading the post which quotes the Chrysler requirement and then taking a look at the Manufacturing Basics document, there's a very big gulf between the understanding of those who write this stuff and the practical reality of implementing effective management systems. And, this is not the first time there's been a huge gap or complete contradiction between requirements. The PSO manual and the LPA requirements are examples. BTW - what does doing an internal audit once a year really mean.........??

This week, the pundits at the NA autoshow are talking (again) about reviving the domestic auto industry. IMHO, while corporate staffs hand down these kind of non-value added, ill conceived, costly - but far reaching - 'rules' on already overburdened suppliers, domestics will never be able to get ahead of the game. Didn't anyone ask the question - why don't Toyota ask their supplier to do these things?
 

Stijloor

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#20
Friends,

Chrysler equation:

ISO/TS 16949:2002 + PSO + CSR's + LPA + Manufacturing Basics Self Assessment = :frust::whip::frust::whip: :mg:

Or:

How NOT to "requirementize" yourself back to prosperity......:nope:

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Toyota:

SQAM. That's all..:)

Stijloor.
 
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