Chrysler CSR November 2007 - Internal Audit Requirements

Caster

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#21
Toyota SQAM indeed.

The thing I like about Toyota way is you can talk to a knowledgeable person who can explain exactly what they want, how it helps them, and how it helps you.

They will bend over backwords to help (as long as you do your part). They can makes changes NOW, without 500 sign offs and 2 years delay.

I'll trade working with good people at Toyota for filling out forms 'cause they are in the "blue dot" manuals anyday.
 
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Stijloor

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#22
Toyota SQAM indeed.

The thing I like about Toyota way is you can talk to a knowledgeable person who can explain exactly what they want, how it helps them, and how it helps you.

They will bend over backwords to help (as long as you do your part). They can makes changes NOW, without 500 sign offs and 2 years delay.

I'll trade working with good people at Toyota for filling out forms 'cause they are in the "blue dot" manuals anyday.
Amen to that! :applause: :applause:

Stijloor.
 

xfngrs

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#23
Here is a clarification on the topic-


from Chrysler -CSR clarification December 6, 2007




"In response to your question, Chrysler is not planning on rolling out any special form to perform the self-assessment. If desired, your clients could certainly develop their own form that captures the Objectives, Example Metrics and Support Mechanisms identified in the Powerpoint presentation.

I suggest however that they take the approach that we have suggested in our Customer Specific Requirements...and allow the flexibility for these self-assessment items to be done by them or their tiers as a part of their next internal audit.

Chrysler's intent is not to proliferate any additional audits. In the spirit of ISO/TS-16949, and the Process Approach, it is desired that they effectively combine the Manufacturing Basics elements of Objectives, Example Metrics and Support Mechanisms into their internal audits. This approach will help avoid any duplication and still meet Chrysler's requirements.

I suspect that you'll find your clients (and their tiers') existing Quality Management System already addresses the majority of these items.

Please reinforce the above Chrysler position with your clients.


Regards,"

David P. Fowler
AQP Strategy & Processes
External Quality Programs
Supplier Quality
Procurement & Supply
Chrysler
OUTSIDE: (248) 576-3553 T/L: 776-3553
fax: (248) 576-2189
eMAIL: [email protected] "

I'm using a software module for creating audit checklists. This module allows you to reference the source of the audit item. So I could just go in and reference the Chrysler Document as the source of questions we already have in place and add questions where needed....couldn't I? Couldn't others do something similiar?
 
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shawnann

#24
We've also been getting this type of request from our customers. So far all I've ever had to submit is the CQI-12 Coating System Assessment and that has been sufficient enough for our customers, but more may be required if you are not a coating or plating company.
 

Helmut Jilling

Auditor / Consultant
#25
I'm using a software module for creating audit checklists. This module allows you to reference the source of the audit item. So I could just go in and reference the Chrysler Document as the source of questions we already have in place and add questions where needed....couldn't I? Couldn't others do something similiar?

I would think that depends on whether your existing questions address the items that Chysler wants addressed. You have to decide that.
 

xfngrs

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#26
Re: Chrysler CSR November 2007

Yes it is there:
sign in on Covisint, go to the Chrysler portal
Go to the Reference tab
I don't see a Reference Tab:confused:
Scroll to Downloads

"Quality Management Systems Information" link is midway down that alphabetical list (below "Process Sign-Off Manual" and above "Supplier PFMEA Audit Summary", 2 other frequently-requested documents)
The link goes to http://qmsi.extra.daimlerchrysler.com/wi/clients/QMSI_e

"Elements of Manufacturing Basics" is the first item on that page. It's a basic 11-slide presentation in pdf format.

B.G. Wiehle
Where do you see a reference tab?
 

Caster

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#29
My approach will be to simply ignore this until acted upon by either our registrar or Chrysler.
Just went thru a TS re reg audit. When this came up, I just stated "our current internal audit system covers this material" and the audit moved on.
 
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spacemanR

#30
thank you for your sharing the data.i can not access the wedsite for customer has not give us the permssion.
as my understanding,no specific audit is necessary to fulfill the requirement of the clause as the audit of mangement review process and production process covers these .
 
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