Cigarette labels and regulations

Ok, let's find out... Do you smoke?

  • Yes - more than a pack a day

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • Yes - maybe a pack a day

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • Yes - on and off

    Votes: 1 7.1%
  • No - not anymore

    Votes: 4 28.6%
  • No - but I tried it once or twice

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nope - never touched it

    Votes: 4 28.6%

  • Total voters
    14
  • Poll closed .
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Downey White

#1
As I smoker, I’m following the European debate about the proposal of printing full-colour pictures of cancers etc. on cigarette packs (as in Canada, if I’m not wrong). The actual regulation establish 40% of the pack surface should be covered by health warning (Smoking Kills), so I don’t feel pictures could improve communication more than that. Smokers know it kills.

Furthermore, I keep receiving by email fake labels to cover the real ones on the packs (I attach the file for smokers to have a laugh and print it out on stickers – I actually sent it to my boss and my request for Friday afternoon off as been immediately approved…) :D

How’s the regulation on health warnings in your country?
 

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#2
Higgson said:
I don’t feel pictures could improve communication more than that. Smokers know it kills.
You're right, they do know. We all know it. I don't think those pictures will make people kick the habit. The real trick must be to persuade kids not to start smoking, and I have to tell you, my mother made quite a job in that respect. I remember it well:

She used to work in the lung ward as a nurse for many years. Well, she took me there, and soon enough I noticed a man in a wheel chair. He didn't look disabled to me... With all the directness of a five year old I asked him why he could not walk?

He looked me straight in the eye for a while. Then he told me (very, very quietly and slowly, because of the effort it took) that his lungs were in such poor shape after years of smoking, that he couldn't even muster the strength to stand up, and much less walk. He was quite frank about it, and also told me that he was 45 years old and did not expect to reach 46.

I got the idea: I will be 45 in a couple of weeks, and I never tasted tobacco in my life. Nor do I have any intention to do so.

Higgson said:
How’s the regulation on health warnings in your country?
I think it's the same or similar to what you have in Italy.

/Claes
 

RoxaneB

Super Moderator
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#3
The rules in Ontario (province within Canada) will be changing, I believe. First off, the province will become smoke-free in restaurants and workplaces in the near future. Currently, this is set up to be a municipal by-law and one that I am very thankful for. I anticipate seeing the responses and reactions to the province-wide ban.

Ontario is also looking at making the public display of cigarettes for sale illegal. In other words, hidden beneath the counter.

Unfortunately, any other comments I have on the sale of tobacco and the usage of it are in violation of the Cove's politcal discussion rule, so I'll just keep 'em to myself. *insert innocent whistling here* :D

I have never smoked. Similar to Claes, I have good reason not to. I have seen a grandmother wither away with emphazema. My father used to smoke heavily when I was a child. During that time, I averaged six colds in winter alone, which evolved to bronchitis in more than 50% of them. My asthma is now finally under control. And every morning when he would wake up, he had that "cough"...the one that makes a cat coughing up a hair sound pleasant.
 
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D.Scott

#5
Me too Al - I started smoking at age 8 out behind the family barn. I haven't had a cigarette in almost 20 years.
 
#6
Al Rosen said:
I'm a three pack a day ex-smoker. I don't think I have to say anymore than that.
No, I don't suppose you do. Three pack a day? That really is a lot. :eek: It must have been :censor: to quit... which is another reason for my never having tried it: I seriously doubt having the strength of character needed to quit if I ever got myself into the habit.

Al & Dave: Forgive my curiosity, but: What made you decide to quit? Anyone who manages to do that deserves a :applause:

/Claes

Added later: Let's see what the poll tells us....
 
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Al Rosen

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#7
D.Scott said:
Me too Al - I started smoking at age 8 out behind the family barn. I haven't had a cigarette in almost 20 years.
I quit February 13, 1981.

Claes said:
Al & Dave: Forgive my curiosity, but: What made you decide to quit? Anyone who manages to do that deserves a :applause:
A duodenal ulcer.
 

Ron Rompen

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#8
Well, RC may be politically correct, but I've NEVER been accused of that :)

If I get shot at sunrise for this, so be it....SOMEONE has to stand up for the smokers.

I am a smoker, and have been for 30+ years. I made the choice for myself, wasn't coerced or forced into it. I am fully aware that it is hazardous to myself, and to nonsmokers who are forced to inhale my secondhand smoke.

I am in partial agreement with the legislation that bans smoking in restaurants. However, I feel that owners of private establishments should have the right to designate their facilities as NON-smokefree...in fact, make them smoking MANDATORY!

And let's not talk about the Legion. A whole generation of young men and women who were issued free cigarettes by our government while serving their country. Now they're told that, in their OWN CLUB, they're not allowed to smoke, not allowed to have a smoking area....NOTHING.

No, my 80 year old father has to go outside in the snow and sleet to have his cigarette!

Protection of teens and preteens is one thing, but this is carrying it a bit TOO far. Government has too much say in our lives, or at least we are allowing them to.

Sorry, but I'm gonna light up a couple more at the same time, and stage my own (semi)silent protest.
 
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Kevin H

#9
I've never really smoked, and definitely not cigarettes, just played some with pipes and cigars. I'll still occasionally have a cigar - with friends on Christmas & New Year's Eve, and a pipe occasionally during a historic reenactment. So I'm not entirely certain what that makes me by the above poll, though I voted tried once/twice. Tobacco use per year - probably less than once a month, and cigarettes never.

On the other hand, I firmly believe we're reacting to the harm from smoking (& second hand smoke especially) excessively. (I'm not arguing that both smoke & second hand smoke don't harm people, just that our reaction is excessive.) I view smoking at least partly as a question of personal freedom - should there be smoke-free locations - absolutely. Should there be venues where smoking is permitted, and if you want to be there you'll have to deal with the smoke - again, absolutely. The question in part is how much should we the people allow government to control our habits/vices. Tobacco's a specially vexacious question because here in the US, we support the growing of tobacco through farm subsidies, we also restrict the growing of tobacco through allotments given historically to farmers, we tax the blazes out of it at state and national levels and use the taxes for various reasons, and we also have the "tobacco settlement" with big pay-outs for lawyers and the states that was supposed to in part provide money for Stop Smoking campaigns and health support for smokers. Jeez - talk about schizoprenic behaviour!

Overall - I guess I take a more libertarian view - people should be able to engage in potentially dangerous behaviour when they know the dangers involved (Not true, I agree in the past, but I'm 52, and find it difficult to believe that anyone my age or younger isn't well aware of the dangers of smoking tobacco.), and also when their actions have minimal affect on others. I'm also not certain if the results of government restrictions on recreational substances are't as negative as the free use of them might be/was. (NB - personally, the only 2 drugs I use on a regular reoccuring basis are caffeine and alcohol, as a glass or 2 of wine with dinner & and an occasional single malt scotch with friends.)
 
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Grizz1345

#10
:cool: Let me state up front that I am a reformed smoker. My wife still smokes. She, by her own choice does not smoke in the house. I stay out of the garage (smoking room). I believe that part of the issue with smoking, here in southern California is the litter involve. There is 13 miles of beach in LA county smoke free. I do not believe it was the smell of the cigarettes as much as the butts littering the beach that made this happen. Look in the ash tray of a car that a smoker drives. Look at public ash trays and see what is on the groundl. I believe that smokers have a responsibilty to clean up after themselves. I was in the military and did my fair share of policing butts. I am now 59 years old and do not pick up cigarette butts for anyone including my wife. I realize this is a very sensitive topic and I hope I have not stepped on too many toes. If you smoke please clean up after yourself. SMOKE ON AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Thanks and have a great day.
 
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