CMM Star Probe Numbering - Bottom, Back, Left, Front, Right vs. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

apestate

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#1
Just a basic question.

I've completely forgotten the CMM index numbering of star probes because the software I learned on said "Bottom, Back, Left, Front, Right."

Now we are using software which uses the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 scheme and there is some confusion as to the correct orientation for these numbers. I cannot find anything at all that I can go by.

It would be nice to have something from Renishaw or what have you that shows the positions and the standard numbering so we can all get on the same page at this plant. However, I can't remember which way is which myself.

Can someone ?
 
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apestate

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Well, curiosity got the better of me and I located the information in the PCDMIS reference manual, which PDF I downloaded for free in anticipation of using the software someday.

I'll have to type from the printed page since I don't have Acrobat in full:

The tip assigned to ... # 1 points in the same direction as the rail on which it rests. This is the Z- direction.

The tip assigned to ... # 2 points in the X+ direction.

The tip assigned to ... # 3 points in the Y+ direction.

The tip assigned to ... # 4 points in the X- direction.

The tip assigned to ... # 5 points in the Y- direction.

This would translate into Bottom, Left, Front, Right, Back.

Is this consistent with the numbering seen elsewhere?
 
T

True Position

#3
Zeiss CMMs

The Standard for Zeiss Calypso CMMs from every manual I've ever seen was:

1: Down
2: Back
3: Right
4: Front
5: Left

But, you get to both number and name them with this software to avoid any confusion either way.
 

apestate

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#4
Thanks

Looks like it's software specific, unless I pulled the wrong thing out of the DMIS manual. I'll have to check next shift.
 
P

Pharis

#5
I know , it is quite old story but for the "new visitors" , in the probe Utility window choose the tip#1 and click on it twice , then edit the nick name ; so , you may call it as AFT etc...

Good luck....
 
M

mboucher

#6
At the CMM Quarterly website is a full explanation of Probe Qualification on PC-DMIS. Just look under Current Issue then find PC-DMIS with James Mannes. He also has articles in the Past Issues/ PC-DMIS with James Section. This is a on going section of the magazine so lots of PC-DMIS material to look over.

Mark Boucher
 
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