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Communication - Breaching the Toughest Wall

Randy

Super Moderator
#11
I looked at it again, and guess what? I wrote it the way I speak...ask Marc or one of the others here that I may have bored to tears during a class.

I appreciate the comments for my 1st effort against some the world class folks that have contributed.

Theyats how I talks to folks Mike :D
 
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Jim Howe

#12
Randy,
The last english composition class I took at the university was sometime ago but I remember the prof. stressing one very important point "WRITE THE WAY YOU SPEAK!". If there is one thing i cannot stand its an article where the author is full of himself writing to impress god knows who instead of trying to reach his audience.
Thanks again for a great effort. :applause:
 
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sal881vw

Quite Involved in Discussions
#13
"Probably the first and biggest step is for management to truthfully seek and accept negative information about and objective critique of the organization itself."

My favourite sentence is the above, this is what I call precision and constructive cirticism. A good article.
 
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Charmed

#14
Information Exchange

Dear Randy:

The toughest barrier of all is People! Now, I just thought I might add my $0.01 here about

"What information do we need to exchange?"

A few years ago, I remember, our management decided to get into this very warm and fuzzy mode of wanting to communicate with all of its employees. Then we started getting messages on our answering machines - these were called "broadcasts" from all imaginable departments, mostly VPs from marketing and sales, finance, etc. telling us what the company is doing to increase sales, how they are looking at forward forecasts for the coming quarter, etc. I had no choice but to listen to those message, since I could not "skip" them, or at least never figured how to.

My point? This exchange of information with humble me way way way way down the corporate ladder was going to do nothing at all. I could do nothing even if took this message to heart. This new information that I had was not related in any way with my job related functions! I had other important messages to listen to on my answering machine, to do what I had to do that day to earn my paycheck. Just thought I would let you know.

Charmed :)
 

Randy

Super Moderator
#15
Charmed said:
Dear Randy:

The toughest barrier of all is People! Now, I just thought I might add my $0.01 here about

My point? This exchange of information with humble me way way way way down the corporate ladder was going to do nothing at all. I could do nothing even if took this message to heart. This new information that I had was not related in any way with my job related functions! I had other important messages to listen to on my answering machine, to do what I had to do that day to earn my paycheck. Just thought I would let you know.

Charmed :)
I feel pretty much the same about information. I don't really give a rat's "A" unless it's relavant to me and my needs. Too much of what is communicated internally and externally is "fluff", "gee-whiz" and "who cares".
 
#16
Charmed said:
My point? This exchange of information with humble me way way way way down the corporate ladder was going to do nothing at all. I could do nothing even if took this message to heart. This new information that I had was not related in any way with my job related functions!
Good point.... and there is something else to consider: Proper communication flows both ways. It must not be a one way street. What you describe sounds more like preaching, most likley to an increasingly disinterested audience.

:nope:

/Claes
 
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AllanJ

#17
Randy produced an interesting article that spurs a couple of thoughts:

1. I sometimes wonder why we constantly have to remind adults about how to communicate. It seems to me something is lacking in those formative years when children should be taught all about effective, polite communication. Schools and homes are the proper place to first learn these essential societal skills.
2. The old "joke" is visible on the TV, at work, in the pubs, clubs - everywhere, of two people in a conversation: one was speaking the other waiting to speak. Though, nowadays, it is more a case of "I do apologise for speaking when you are interupting me".

As for the Professor's advice to write as we speak, some examples would be humorous, some would be pornographic and some indecipherable, some a mixture of all! Perhaps, though, school teachers actually practice his advice, in which case, I return to point 1., above.

Isn't it nice to have so many lucid "Covers" all busily communicating?
 

Randy

Super Moderator
#18
Here is an excerpt of a recent message I sent to a facility manager and his purchasing manager concerning air emission tracking .....

2) The development of a documented tracking mechanism (spreadsheet) that at the minimum lists;

1. Facility unique identifier or part number for each individual manufacturer product (if need be start with C0001 for example) NOTE: if you have the same product made by 2 or more different manufacturer's, each product has to have a separate number.

2. Product name (given by the manufacturer)

3. Name of the manufacturer for each product (not the supplier)

4. Manufacturer's unique product identifier (number, code, etc)

5. Size or quantity of product container (gallon, oz, pound, etc)

6. Quantity purchased (number of items)

7. Month of purchase

8. Area of usage in facility (booth, wood shop, metal shop, etc..)


3) Obtaining of Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) and Certified Product Data Sheets (CPDS) or Environmental Data Sheets (EDS). The MSDS is an absolute under OSHA's 29CFR 1910.1200 Hazard Communication requirement. The CPDS or EDS will contain more detailed information to assist in environmental reporting. Please keep this material onsite and forward copies to me.


Guess what I got back......"What are we supposed to do and what do you need to know?"

This is an example of no ownership or feeling of relevence.
 
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