Just a few questions to ask....
Well, that's interesting... What about the following?
4.2.3a) to approve documents for adequacy prior to issue,
Is he really competent to judge if a written procedure is adequate in each and every case? Somehow I strongly doubt that, but imo that is exactly what he's saying by putting his name on the document. If he approves the document, that also suggests to me that he owns the process in question.
Does this match what your management has to say about
5.5.1, Top management shall ensure that responsibilities and authorities are defined and communicated within the organization?
4.2.3b) to review and update as necessary and re-approve documents,
He hogged ownership of the entire system, did he? How interested will the true originators and process owners be when it comes to update as necessary? What will happen when he leaves?
/Claes
gheghe said:
Just an example, in document control procedure, he indicated there that "all documents must have the originators name", if you take a look at our document template /format there's no alloted space for orignator, there's only the approving bodys. When I asked him this is exactly what his answer was " the approving body and originator are the same, I'm the originator and I'm the one who will approved it, even if the document is created by Purchasing dept, I am the originator and that will not be changed".
4.2.3a) to approve documents for adequacy prior to issue,
Is he really competent to judge if a written procedure is adequate in each and every case? Somehow I strongly doubt that, but imo that is exactly what he's saying by putting his name on the document. If he approves the document, that also suggests to me that he owns the process in question.
Does this match what your management has to say about
5.5.1, Top management shall ensure that responsibilities and authorities are defined and communicated within the organization?
4.2.3b) to review and update as necessary and re-approve documents,
He hogged ownership of the entire system, did he? How interested will the true originators and process owners be when it comes to update as necessary? What will happen when he leaves?
/Claes