Informational Context of the Organization & Interested Parties Evidence - ISO 9001:2015 Cl. 4.1/4.2

tony s

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3 - identification of risk means identification of NC, which is a risk per se .... so if the auditor identifies a NC, it is implying he identifyes a (new) risk.
etc...
Where do you base this claim? NC has a definition, even risk.
 
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ISO 9001Ş2015 - 10.2.1e
...maybe a better approach is "every ncf. leads to a risk"....:)
In a cause and effect relationship, I am more inclined to see that risks can cause NCs - and not the other way around. Clause 10.2.1e is intended for determining the risk/s that may have been overlooked previously (i.e. during the planning of the QMS and/or its processes) that led to the occurrence of the NC.

As per ISO/TS 9002 Clause 6.1.1, the purpose of determining risks is to prevent NCs including nonconforming outputs. Thus, risks are causes and NCs are effects.
 
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