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Continual Improvement as Result of Corrective Action?

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I don't think that's a particularly good example, because Cpk is not a very good indicator of anything. Whether or not an "improvement" from 1.33 to 1.67 would be worthwhile depends on facts not in evidence here. Nothing is improved if unnecessary changes are made.
The Ppk indictor is more approaching the improvement measure rather than Cpk , I see Cpk could be more approaching tools & equipment accuracy , but Ppk could be more approaching the Human / personnel competence & performance
 
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John Broomfield

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#32
Enghabashy,

I absolutely agree with you on our system standards specifying that preventive action shall continually determine and remove the root causes of potential nonconformity from the system.

It’s a mindset at risk of decay if neglected.

PA could actively be linked to planning, collecting and analyzing data, employee engagement, process design, product design and risk-based thinking. That may loosen its unfortunate association with corrective action.

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John
 

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I see that the new version of ISO 9001:2015 ignored our manufacturing culture for prevention , maybe Risk management covering the prevention in management & business ; but the preventive action is still maintained in our manufacturing culture , IATF 16949 is clearly maintain the requirement , the new version of ISO 9001” maybe 2024 “ should keeping the preventive action as result of : risk determination & assessment , the corrective actions taken should be analysed to determine the the need for taking preventive action in another location / field , the application of error proof system as one of preventive action concept , ---etc.,

  • Therefore I see the requirement of IATF-Clause 6.1.2.2 as below could be adopted in new ISO 9001 : 2024 , which could be :
6.1.2.2 Preventive action

The organization shall determine and implement action(s) to eliminate the causes of potential nonconformities in order to prevent their occurrence. Preventive actions shall be appropriate to the severity of the potential issues.

The organization shall establish a process to lessen the impact of negative effects of risk including the following:

a) determining potential nonconformities and their causes;

b) evaluating the need for action to prevent occurrence of nonconformities;

c) determining and implementing action needed;

d) documented information of action taken;

e) reviewing the effectiveness of the preventive action taken;

f) utilizing lessons learned to prevent recurrence in similar processes (see ISO 9001, Section 7.1.6).
While all of this might be good, it's off-topic--see the thread title.
 
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