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Willyboy
Hello again.
Below is a CA report that was filled out by our company's shop manager with the help of our QA manager. I know that I can get wordy at times in my descriptions and questions, but if someone(s) could give me their thoughts, I'd be very grateful.
Before we get started, I need to tell you that my opinion is that the “true root cause” has not been found and/or discussed. Here we go.
The explanation of the issue is: “Employees assembled bag incorrectly.”
The root cause (singular cause, not plural) using 5 whys is given as:
Employee assembled package incorrectly.
Did not refer to sample.
They forgot there was a sample.
Were not shown where the sample was.
Employees were not reminded to refer to sample.
Immediate Action is given as:
Incorrect product was reassembled.
Sample given to each employee to follow.
Corrective/Preventive Action is given as:
Retrain employees to follow procedures.
Summary/Final Review is given as:
Follow up when job returns to shop.
As I stated at the beginning, I do not believe that the “true root cause” has been found or discussed. Why?
Because there is no explanation of “how” the bags were assembled incorrectly.
Were they not sealed but should have been? Were they sealed but should not have been? If they were supposed to be sealed, were they sealed too tight? Too loose? At an angle? Did the bags have the wrong parts in them? Too many parts? Not enough parts? Was the wrong bag used?
I believe that the root cause items given:
“Employee assemble package incorrectly.
Did not refer to sample.
They forgot there was a sample.
Were not shown were the sample was.
Employees were not reminded to refer to sample.”
are possible starting places, but until we know “how” they were assembled incorrectly, I do not feel that we can get into the “why”.
If the management can sit down with the employees and show them with a sample the correct way to assemble the bags/packages, will this suffice? It might fix this particular issue, but I do not believe that is very preventive of similar incidents that may occur due to sealing the bags, not sealing, wrong parts, etc.
As always, thanks.
Bill
Below is a CA report that was filled out by our company's shop manager with the help of our QA manager. I know that I can get wordy at times in my descriptions and questions, but if someone(s) could give me their thoughts, I'd be very grateful.
Before we get started, I need to tell you that my opinion is that the “true root cause” has not been found and/or discussed. Here we go.
The explanation of the issue is: “Employees assembled bag incorrectly.”
The root cause (singular cause, not plural) using 5 whys is given as:
Employee assembled package incorrectly.
Did not refer to sample.
They forgot there was a sample.
Were not shown where the sample was.
Employees were not reminded to refer to sample.
Immediate Action is given as:
Incorrect product was reassembled.
Sample given to each employee to follow.
Corrective/Preventive Action is given as:
Retrain employees to follow procedures.
Summary/Final Review is given as:
Follow up when job returns to shop.
As I stated at the beginning, I do not believe that the “true root cause” has been found or discussed. Why?
Because there is no explanation of “how” the bags were assembled incorrectly.
Were they not sealed but should have been? Were they sealed but should not have been? If they were supposed to be sealed, were they sealed too tight? Too loose? At an angle? Did the bags have the wrong parts in them? Too many parts? Not enough parts? Was the wrong bag used?
I believe that the root cause items given:
“Employee assemble package incorrectly.
Did not refer to sample.
They forgot there was a sample.
Were not shown were the sample was.
Employees were not reminded to refer to sample.”
are possible starting places, but until we know “how” they were assembled incorrectly, I do not feel that we can get into the “why”.
If the management can sit down with the employees and show them with a sample the correct way to assemble the bags/packages, will this suffice? It might fix this particular issue, but I do not believe that is very preventive of similar incidents that may occur due to sealing the bags, not sealing, wrong parts, etc.
As always, thanks.
Bill