CQI-9 or W-HTX - Which heat treating standard is more stringent?

Kales Veggie

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Some companies hire outside contractors/consultants to assist with CQI:9/HTSA. Those contractors/consultants should have 5 yr. heat treat experience or one of the team members should have 5 yr heat treat experience. That is my interpretation of the CQI:9 standard.

CqI:9 has no impact on the 3rd party QMS auditor. The 3rd party auditor (TS or ISO-9000) does not need 5 yr heat treat experience to audit (surveillance or certification) a company that has completed a CQI:9/HTSA.
 
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Jeff Martin Wintle

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CQI appears to be an annual certrification requirement. Is that accurate. My company is not a manufacturer but a JIT supplier for Tier 2 suppliers. The manufacturer we used had never heard of CQI - or atleast had not been performing the annual requirement. The initial survery completed by the heat treater showed lost of areas for improvement. The finished product was good and passed all performance requirements. The heat treater was not 'dotting' the i's so to speak. How detrimental to our PPAP submission will this report be - any opinions out there? Thanks for your reply.
 

Kales Veggie

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CQI appears to be an annual certrification requirement. Is that accurate. My company is not a manufacturer but a JIT supplier for Tier 2 suppliers. The manufacturer we used had never heard of CQI - or atleast had not been performing the annual requirement. The initial survery completed by the heat treater showed lost of areas for improvement. The finished product was good and passed all performance requirements. The heat treater was not 'dotting' the i's so to speak. How detrimental to our PPAP submission will this report be - any opinions out there? Thanks for your reply.
Impact on PPAP?

That depends on what areas of improvement were found, how they are assessed ("need immediate action"?) and how quickly the findings can be corrected.

Annual? CQI 9 is an assessment (can be a self-assessment or 2nd or 3rd party). If it is an annual assessment, depends on what your customer requires.
 
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