Customer requires Controls Detection to match Control Plan Control Method

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Mark Paul

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Just when I thought I knew how to do PFMEA's and CP's alomg comes a Fortune 100 Company (TS16949) that requires Controls detection on the PFMEA to match the Controls method on the CP, for each balloon number!!!

Example, balloon number 36 -"clearance diameter" and balloon 39 - "a2b Angle" both are customer required to say "First Piece Inspection Report / Inprocess Inspection" ( because they are checked that way).
Furthermore each balloon is required on both sheets. I have 187 Balloons on this automotive casting.

1)How do I explain that this is a PROCESS fmea and not a balloon fmea?
2) Wouldn't you think that the wording "Inspection Forms" would be sufficient? I could use that phrase in all but the 8 - 10 SCC balloons.

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Please give as many opinions as we can muster....
 

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Re: Customer requires cont. detect to match Control Method

I guess this should be more of opinion/wish of a guy in a Fortune 100 Company rather than a requirement of the Company per se.

If the guy is receptive, ask him what value it adds. Still unlucky, you might just try to rope-in one of his colleagues whom you think will strengthen your argument.
 
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Mark Paul

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Re: Customer requires cont. detect to match Control Method

Sorry, weird as it seems, that was brought up to multiple people and they in turn showed me the official doc from their PPAP police. Signed by the senior supplier quality engineer from another country.......They told me do it anyway.
 
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