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Kevin H said:
Actually, as I read ISO/TS 16949, and the FAQ for supplier development from IAOB, you can escape requiring your supplier to be ISO 9001:2000 registered if they do not do any manufacturing and just distribute the part/raw material/ etc. to you. If they are not a distributor, you need at the minimum to have a plan for all suppliers to achieve ISO 9001:2000 registration within the 3 year span of your TS certificate, or you need to get approval from the customer for an alternative approach. You cannot stake out exceptions for "Mom & Pop" shops.
Where I got my information: If you look in the IASG sanctioned interpretations for QS-9000, dated 7-1-02, page 3 it states "4. Many of my sub-contractors are small "Mom and Pop" shops who cannot afford to get registered. Must we stop using them? Answer: No. If you refer to QS-9000 3rd edition, appendix 1.4, page 112, also shown below, you will see that small, low impact subcontractos are addressed by permitting waiver by the supplier of certian specified QS-9000 sub elements, such as C9 (4.6.2.)
So this is why we could use the "Mom & Pop" shops as long as you audit them. (Quote from sactioned interepetations: The 2nd party must utilize a qualified Lead Auditor, or qualified Internal Auditor with evidence of their successful completion of training, such as AIAG.... or evidence of minimum of 5 internal audits for QS-9000 under the supervision of a lead auditor.)
I am not sure about TS16949, only because our company had to move to 9K2K because we are TE supplier and TS doesn't have any supplement for TE. I have a strong feeling though, that this same type of question will be asked again for TS, and that they would have the same type of answer, but until it is in writing, organziations registered to TS can't do what is stated above.
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