DCX (DaimlerChrysler) Customer Specific Requirements July 2004

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Bigfoot

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I have received the July 2004 CSR for DaimlerChrysler. These were sent to us by a DCX representative in conjunction with their addition of the "Layered Process Audits" and their reporting requirements and form. I checked the IAOB website and the version posted there is Sept. 2003.

So the question is When is the CSR deemed to be an "Official" release?

When it is posted on the IAOB webstie?

When it is received from the Customer?

We have a surveillance audit in 3 weeks & I don't want to get blindsided. Please give me your thoughts on this.
 
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Hermann - 2011

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I've just received a copy from DC as well. Have you read the requirement # 4.2.1.9.1? Do they really expect me to document a daily error proofing audit?
 
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Bigfoot said:
So the question is When is the CSR deemed to be an "Official" release?
Because CSRs are posted in other places than just the IAOB site, the release date is the date on the document (as I understand things). Suppliers are obligated to meet CSRs on the day they are published (the date on the dcoument).

I am anxious to see what this new CSR entails.
 
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Bigfoot

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July 04 CSR for DCX

Hermann said:
I've just received a copy from DC as well. Have you read the requirement # 4.2.1.9.1? Do they really expect me to document a daily error proofing audit?
From the way I read it the answer would be yes. Although these are a little more stringent the Layered audits emulate the GM layered audit process that GM issued with their QSB (Quality Systems Basics) program a couple of years back.
 
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Bigfoot

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db said:
Because CSRs are posted in other places than just the IAOB site, the release date is the date on the document (as I understand things). Suppliers are obligated to meet CSRs on the day they are published (the date on the dcoument).

I am anxious to see what this new CSR entails.
db,
Thanks for your response. That is what I thought. I spoke with the IAOB to check on the newly issued CSR from DCX and the person I spoke with was completely unaware of the change.

www.iaob.org
 
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Randy Lefferts

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sbehensky said:
What exactly does 4.2.1.9.1 mean ? Where can I get more information on it ?
Here is the requirement. You can also grab the full document from IAOB.

4.2.1.9.1 Layered Process Audits

Organizations supplying components to DaimlerChrysler Powertrain and Component Manufacturing Plants shall conduct Layered Process Control Audits on all manufacturing and assembly lines that produce components for DaimlerChrysler. These shall include all error-proofing operations.
Note: Effective January 2005, all production suppliers will be required to comply with LPA which will become a prerequisite for obtaining PSO approval.

Organizations shall provide evidence of compliance to the following requirements:

• Audit process shall involve multiple levels of management, from line supervisor up to top management.
• Top management at plant shall conduct process control audits at least once per week.
Delegation of this activity will not be accepted with the exception of extenuating circumstances.
• The organization shall have a documented audit structure with auditor level and frequency of inspection.
• Process control audits shall be conducted at least once per shift for build techniques and craftsmanship related processes.
• Error Proofing Audits shall be conducted at least once per day.
• Compliance charts shall be completed once per month and maintained for the life of the program.
The following metrics should be included:
* audit completion by all auditing layers
* By-Item percentage conformance by area
• Reaction plans shall be in place to immediately resolve all non-conformances.
• The organization shall show evidence of immediate corrective action, containment (as required), and root cause analysis (as required).
• Communication Procedure is required to address reoccurring non-conformances.
Specific areas of focus shall include the following:
* Resolution of non-conformances
* Escalation of issue for management review
* Lessons learned 4.2.1.10
 

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Surprise changes from DCX

This audit change caught me by complete surprise.

DCX has chosen to not identify the changes in any way when the release them.

I found four changes from the last version I had (Sep 03), of which 3 were extremely subtle (and trivial). I have tried to create an attachment of the changes.

Has anyone found any other changes I missed?

I managed to completely overlook the new audit requirement on my first read through.

Does anyone dare issue a corrective action request to DCX for failing to implement TS 16949 clause 4.2.3 Control of documents c) .... ensure that changes and the current revision status of documents are identified?
 

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bgwiehle

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Caster said:
This audit change caught me by complete surprise.

DCX has chosen to not identify the changes in any way when the release them.

I found four changes from the last version I had (Sep 03), of which 3 were extremely subtle (and trivial). I have tried to create an attachment of the changes.

Has anyone found any other changes I missed?

I managed to completely overlook the new audit requirement on my first read through.

Does anyone dare issue a corrective action request to DCX for failing to implement TS 16949 clause 4.2.3 Control of documents c) .... ensure that changes and the current revision status of documents are identified?
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The only changes I noted in the current update were the date change (to July 1) and the addition of 4.2.1.9.1. The other changes that you cited were already part of the Sep 2003 update (which also deleted a statement at 4.1).

Perhaps you were looking at the previous revision (I think it was Sep 2002)?

The new Chrysler requirement for layered process audits was raised in the forum thread Layered Process Audit required by Chrysler back in May 2004.

It is annoying to have to go through the document line-by-line to find changes.

B.G. Wiehle
 
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