Definition of Sub-supplier in chemicals

Dan M

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Hello, we manufacture chemicals for Tier I’s to use in the parts they supply to the OEMs. We are seeing the term “Sub-supplier” in customers’ supplier quality manual. Is this term “Sub-supplier” commonly used to reference outsourced processing, or would bulk raw material suppliers also be consider as “Sub-suppliers?”
 
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I am not current with IATF 16949, but in the old TS 16949 the following terms meant:
  1. Organization - the company covered by the standard
  2. Supplier - the Tier 1 supplying the organization
  3. Sub-supplier - the Tier 2 supplying the organization
I am sure someone will confirm or rebut this soon.
 

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I am not current with IATF 16949, but in the old TS 16949 the following terms meant:
  1. Organization - the company covered by the standard
  2. Supplier - the Tier 1 supplying the organization
  3. Sub-supplier - the Tier 2 supplying the organization
I am sure someone will confirm or rebut this soon.
That's about how I see it.

having done a brief stint in chemicals I went like this:

-End user
-Customer. Usually a chemical and/or lab supply company like Cole-Parmer. We also sold direct so probably about 50% of customers were end users.
-My organization (supplier to the customer). We bought bulk chemicals, tested to confirm purity, then repacked in consumer sized containers.
-My Supplier (sup-supplier the customer). Bulk chemical sales, distribution and transport
-Their Supplier (sub-sub-supplier to the customer, sub-supplier to me) chemical manufacturer

it got really convoluted as more middlemen were added.
 
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