Re: Quality Objectives - Do Quality Objectives have to be Measurable?

Thanks Howste. Big Jim, Patrick, Sardokar. I Like the response to the word "equipment" applied to human beings. I also liked The response on Humans getting considered as "Resource" and now attempted to be narrowed down to merely an "equipment" to be taken from shelf and getting shelved after use!

. Very unfair indeed!
I liked Patrick's response

on using our creativity to apply principles of the standard to experience benefits of the intent. I wish to share the following.
There are references on profound applications of principles of organizational behavior (OB) in application of Six Sigma methodology in selection of six sigma team members, process champion, black belts and green belts. Six Sigma methodology is also one of the QSM with application of statistical principles.
OHSAS 18000 has also introduced the word "Behaviour" in relation to safety, which was not there in the earlier version. In the emerging application of OB in safety, I read

about "calibration of safety observers" in a book on behavior based safety that talked about safety observers as equivalent to transducers because they "measure" safety behavior. There was also a mention of application of principles of statistics to the data generated by these observers. Therefore there is a need for reliability in the observations by the observers who are basically not "equipment" in the narrow sense of the word but certainly are human beings

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I asked similar question to one veteran LA who mentioned that he had gone to one location to "Calibrate an audit team". The audit teams comprise of humans too.
"Equipment" in the narrow sense of the word are not human beings. But once they are calibrated, they "behave" predictably. Even then we need periodic calibration because the calibration may get drifted.
Human beings in one culture respond reasonably predictably to a stimulus. That is how we identify a culture. However, it becomes more critical to develop consistency in human beings, as due to wide variety of external factors, same individual may respond differently in different situations.
Audit team members also need "personal attributes" and application of auditing skills so that each individual member, given a situation, respond predictably, solicit predictable response from the auditee (art of questioning) , with high degree of consistency and identify the findings with very "narrow variability". When the variability is brought within acceptable limits, the team is considered "calibrated" and ready for launch.
Therefore, I agree with Patrick that there is a scope for using creativity in application of the requirement of standards. ISO 9001:2008 aims at making it compatible with ISO 14000. In OHSAS 18001:2007 we see annexure giving clause by clause compatibility of the three standards. And then there is PAS 99:2006 by BSI under revision, the 2010 draft of which is available, gives framework for Integrated Management System with seamless integration of the management systems of the standards that have remarkable compatibility.
I wish to clarify that I asked the question with these factors on mind. Recruitment is a process, job profile is the input, advertisement, screening applications, shortlisting, formation of committee, various assessments, preparation of merit list, etc., are steps and selected candidate fulfilling "requirements" is an output that goes to core function, who is the customer in
SIPOC model.
And there, as Patrick responded, when we wish to integrate all the standards for seamless integration, there could be a scope to use our creativity and to include calibration of a committee to develop them to give consistent and output of measurement of competence - reliable personnel, again the humans with narrow variability fitting into the requirements of the organization.
Patric, I am interested in knowing more about what the SEI put it in the People Management Maturity Model
