Do these certificates of calibration meet ISO 9001 requirements for traceability to NIST?

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Ed Panek

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"DeFelsko Corporation operates under Management Procedures intended to implement the requirements of ISO 9001, ISO 10012-1, ISO 17025 and ANSI/NCSL Z540-1."

This is an odd way to word it.
 

blackholequasar

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It does state "This [Tester] was calibrated to manufacturer's specifications according to procedure MP 2571 using calibrated test equipment traceable to NIST " - but like Ed mentioned before, the wording is a bit odd.
 

Sidney Vianna

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In ISO 9001:2015, the basic requirement for this is 7.5.1.2 a). It seems to me the calibration certificates (I only opened one) comply with that.
 

Randy

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During audits I have seen certificates issued by these different organizations, they have proven valid and more than acceptable
 
#8
The DelFesko certificate is lacking. It states that they use equipment that is tracable to NIST but fail to provide that traceability. I would not accept it.
 
#9
Thanks to all who replied! I thought 2 of the 3 met the requirement with the Delfesko (Cert 2) not meeting. Cert 3 was conducted by an accredited 17025:2017 lab for the particular item.

The issue I am having is that our certification body has put out a calibration letter stating that a lab cannot show traceability to NIST unless it has been certified to ISO 17025 standards. While that is great, I don't read that as a requirement in the ISO 9001 standard or on NIST's website.
 

Randy

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Thanks to all who replied! I thought 2 of the 3 met the requirement with the Delfesko (Cert 2) not meeting. Cert 3 was conducted by an accredited 17025:2017 lab for the particular item.

The issue I am having is that our certification body has put out a calibration letter stating that a lab cannot show traceability to NIST unless it has been certified to ISO 17025 standards. While that is great, I don't read that as a requirement in the ISO 9001 standard or on NIST's website.
You won't find it because this is required.... "calibrated or verified, or both, at specified intervals, or prior to use, against measurement standards
traceable to international or national measurement standards; when no such standards exist, the basis used for calibration or verification shall be retained as documented information;"

No language at all about NIST, 17025 or anything else.

Cert #2 says this..."This Adhesion Tester was calibrated to manufacturer's specifications according to procedure MP 2571 using calibrated test equipment traceable to NIST.

By the way, here's the procedure for calibration....
 

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