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As an auditor , I prefer flowcharts , rather that long winded procedures. Many of my customers are starting to use flowcharts with the conversion and some are using visio. If a flowchart is too vague then it is up to the auditor to use other auditing techniques to establish compliance.
According to the note2, ISO clause 4.2.1 , " the extent of QMS documentation........ a, b,c,
in the context of the above note , I would not reject a flowchart if it too vague, I would change my auditing techniques and maybe look at the competence of personnel for example., the size and complexity of proceses etc...
Note 3 must also be considered when auditing
If an auditor gives up uphill challenge him or her .
It is certainly the auditors call , however I believe that many auditors are not adequately trained to adapt their auditing techniques, they simply audit robotic fashion. An auditor must be able to adapt to the changing environment. It is up to the organisation to challenge the auditor and follow up with the advisory committee set up by the registrar in terms of the accrediation requirements.
With regards to the transition many auditors are going to find themselves extinct before long if they don't adapt.
I love flowcharts, anytime
According to the note2, ISO clause 4.2.1 , " the extent of QMS documentation........ a, b,c,
in the context of the above note , I would not reject a flowchart if it too vague, I would change my auditing techniques and maybe look at the competence of personnel for example., the size and complexity of proceses etc...
Note 3 must also be considered when auditing
If an auditor gives up uphill challenge him or her .
It is certainly the auditors call , however I believe that many auditors are not adequately trained to adapt their auditing techniques, they simply audit robotic fashion. An auditor must be able to adapt to the changing environment. It is up to the organisation to challenge the auditor and follow up with the advisory committee set up by the registrar in terms of the accrediation requirements.
I love flowcharts, anytime
